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    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.
    You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
    If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.
    You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
    If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.
    This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
    they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
    run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.
    You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
    If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.
    This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
    they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
    run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.
    The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
    Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.
    You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
    If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.
    This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
    they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
    run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.
    The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
    Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.
    You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
    many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
    Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
    people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
    We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
    simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.
    You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
    If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.
    This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
    they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
    run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.
    The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
    Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.
    You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
    many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
    Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
    people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
    We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
    simple.
    Exactly agree with you. We are basically with most fights watching a money making game for the managers and not challenging competition. If the sport was called watching a bunch of rich people get richer for feeding the public bullshit I wouldnt have any problem with it, at least it would be an appropriate name. And I agree with around 20 fights before a title shot not closer to thirty before they even face a top ten fighter (examples. Murray, Kell Brook, Mitchell, Michael Jennings). But opposition should increase in difficulty more than it does these days.
    As for Cleverly my problem with him is that he has a title and he should be defending it against worthy opposition. If he is not ready for that worthy opposition he should give his title up and face the opposition he is comfortable with. He recently avoided a guy rankedd 9th in the world in order to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for the title. How does that make sense. Give a shot to a guy who does not deserve it.
    Dana white is a money grabbing prick I agree. But he gains his money by giving the fans what they want. He pushes for exciting fights by adding bonusses for those who pull of a spectacular victory. I may not agree with it but it makes the fighter more hungry to put on a performance.
    People in the UFC are not just shoved into a world rank fight. They are given suitable competition all the way up to there title fight if they make it and deserve a shot. Unlike boxing where you can fight around 27 or so nobodies and expect a title fight with the top of the devision. If you want to fight the best you should earn your place at the top by fighting other top ten fighters before the belt holders.

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    no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.
    I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
    He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.


    Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.
    You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
    If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.
    This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
    they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
    run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.
    The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
    Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.
    You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
    many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
    Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
    people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
    We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
    simple.
    Exactly agree with you. We are basically with most fights watching a money making game for the managers and not challenging competition. If the sport was called watching a bunch of rich people get richer for feeding the public bullshit I wouldnt have any problem with it, at least it would be an appropriate name. And I agree with around 20 fights before a title shot not closer to thirty before they even face a top ten fighter (examples. Murray, Kell Brook, Mitchell, Michael Jennings). But opposition should increase in difficulty more than it does these days.
    As for Cleverly my problem with him is that he has a title and he should be defending it against worthy opposition. If he is not ready for that worthy opposition he should give his title up and face the opposition he is comfortable with. He recently avoided a guy rankedd 9th in the world in order to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for the title. How does that make sense. Give a shot to a guy who does not deserve it.
    Dana white is a money grabbing prick I agree. But he gains his money by giving the fans what they want. He pushes for exciting fights by adding bonusses for those who pull of a spectacular victory. I may not agree with it but it makes the fighter more hungry to put on a performance.
    People in the UFC are not just shoved into a world rank fight. They are given suitable competition all the way up to there title fight if they make it and deserve a shot. Unlike boxing where you can fight around 27 or so nobodies and expect a title fight with the top of the devision. If you want to fight the best you should earn your place at the top by fighting other top ten fighters before the belt holders.
    When you just had the WBA & WBC, you had to be a top contender to get a shot at a title, unlike
    to day, of course times change there are 2 more in the mix, IBF & WBO.
    I agree not all Champions are good, but there again some are the sport is media driven TV play's a big part , boxers and promoters demands for large purses PPV it all go's hand in hand.
    Sport in general has changed for us as fan's over the years weather it's Football F1 etc now we have to pay to see your favourite sport. The TV people have a big say in the sport of boxing like it or not,
    what sells. Do you think Bute would have come over here to fight Froch just for gate money simple answer no it was down to the TV they generate the big money for boxing you may not like it but it's a fact.Boxing short careers maximum earnings Floyd Pac man or any top fight don't fight for peanut's do they. The day's of Champions fighting for just gate money have long gone, yes I agree there should be better match ups, some times people fall for all the hype all the media is at fault it's what they do.

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    I've been watching boxing, steadily, for fifty-seven years, and it's given me pleasure and pain, but I've never wanted to turn my back on it. Those few minutes when two men or two women get in the ring to answer the guestion, who's the best, make all the BS worth it! It's pure, it's elemental, and for me, dammed near irresistible. Boxing has some serious problems, but there's no way I'm ever going to stop watching it.

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    I've been watching boxing, steadily, for fifty-seven years, and it's given me pleasure and pain, but I've never wanted to turn my back on it. Those few minutes when two men or two women get in the ring to answer the guestion, who's the best, make all the BS worth it! It's pure, it's elemental, and for me, dammed near irresistible. Boxing has some serious problems, but there's no way I'm ever going to stop watching it.
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    65 YEARS I BEEN A FAN OF THE FIGHT GAME ,one thing i do not go for is to many titles must be 6 world champions in each weight category nowadays ,in the 40s and 50s every kid could have told who was the world heavyweight champion now you got so many damn versions of it and all to suit PPV television to many farcial fights and bum decisions as well its like a circus, in fact i prefer to watch the amateurs where you can see real triers heart and soul into the game but it to is fraught with some very poor judgings,looking forward to the olympic and what the cubans have this time around,i think Ireland is assured of 1 gold with Katie Taylor another 2 or 3 could make the finalsgood luck to them
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