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    He beat decent opposition, but past it opposition and avoided the Super 6. Froch showed that Bute cannot take a shot and that should stay home and fight the likes of Allan Green. I don't think Bute has what it takes and this fight will have destroyed his confidence.

    He's nuts if he chooses to waste all our time with a Froch rematch.
    He never avoided the S6 and I wish people would quit saying he did. He was not even asked and was in effect froze out. Instead the powers at be invited Taylor and Abraham who had no business being there.

    The speed in which people are written off today is hilarious. Of course he is still a top 168 pounder. He simply got beat. And rest assured he will demand a rematch. Froch looked great last night and executed his game plan perfectly with a willing opponent allowing him to do so.Bute right off the get go decided to try to out slug the slugger. He was so worried about his feet that he ended up punching off the front of them. Bute will regroup just as any elite after a loss.
    I no he is one of your own,Bute is not finished but it was a very damaging defeat if you are honest
    Kessler and Ward would both beat him. As for the rematch forget about it he will just get Ko again
    Froch has his number Bute can not handle pressure if you let him get into a rhythm he's hard to beat
    but Froch is to much for him the fight was a bit like the old rabbit in the headlights for Bute he froze.
    Well we differ. I dont do the if A beat B and B beat C then A beats C calculation. Boxing simply does not work that way. Bute was not himself and fought rather stupid and seems to be echoing what I said today in the press. At any rate Froch beating him does not mean Ward or Kessler does. All three fight nothing alike. I wish modern day boxing would turn their collective back on the notion that because someone undefeated has lost they are done. I mean imagine if Benny Leonard quit after he was knocked cold or Arguello getting stopped in about his tenth fight. A loss is not the end of the world as most all time greats will attest to. Sure its tough to take as a fan of his from the moment he started as a pro. To see him lose in that type of fashion but he will be back imo and the better for it.

    I agree with your take. Bute seemed lost.
    The thing is that Froch is the best opposition that Bute has faced. Bute has not exactly had great opponents over his 30 fights and maybe hes a case of another protected fighter that is really not as good as everyone thinks. I could be wrong but Froch has come off a terrible loss to Ward where he was very outclassed, then he fights Bute in his next fight and hardly loses a round before destroying him in the fifth.
    It was all to easy a victory for Froch and he made Bute look like a journeyman.
    I have to admit I thought Froch was going to lose on points after all the Hype I heard about Bute but it goes to show. Watch the other guys fights and judge for yourself.

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    So how come bute was able to stop Andrade??
    Andrade is no different to froch according to everyone!! Cos Andrade and froch are pure sluggers and bute was at his peak here so what's the deal??

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    How did abraham hav no buisness in the s6, he had the simlar amount of wins as bute as was also unbeaten
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
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    He beat decent opposition, but past it opposition and avoided the Super 6. Froch showed that Bute cannot take a shot and that should stay home and fight the likes of Allan Green. I don't think Bute has what it takes and this fight will have destroyed his confidence.

    He's nuts if he chooses to waste all our time with a Froch rematch.
    He never avoided the S6 and I wish people would quit saying he did. He was not even asked and was in effect froze out. Instead the powers at be invited Taylor and Abraham who had no business being there.

    The speed in which people are written off today is hilarious. Of course he is still a top 168 pounder. He simply got beat. And rest assured he will demand a rematch. Froch looked great last night and executed his game plan perfectly with a willing opponent allowing him to do so.Bute right off the get go decided to try to out slug the slugger. He was so worried about his feet that he ended up punching off the front of them. Bute will regroup just as any elite after a loss.

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    Who knows may just be a case of froch having his number because granted bute didn't fight top top level opposition he has beaten some decent names in good fashion, that's what make this result so surprising. Froch just absolutely dominated, honestly don't know where bute goes from here....

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    Who knows may just be a case of froch having his number because granted bute didn't fight top top level opposition he has beaten some decent names in good fashion, that's what make this result so surprising. Froch just absolutely dominated, honestly don't know where bute goes from here....

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    Bute vs Magee 2
    Or Robert stieglitz in Canada

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    He's a good fighter but his chin is not World class is it, and if you let the guy get into his slick boxing your
    in trouble. I can't see him being in hurry for a rematch with Froch, as he would not want to be Ko in front of his home town fan's. Some fighters come back from a loss but other don't Bute will have to take stock
    and think were to go.

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    I wouldnt be too quick to right off Bute. This wasnt about how good Bute was/is. Froch looked like he would walk through walls last night and there was nothing Bute could do about it.

    I hope it wasnt a Jeff lacy type loss (although the comparisons are there) and that Bute can come back. The guys got skills, problem for Bute last night is that Carl Froch didnt care about skills, he was steamrollering Bute, what Bute did or wanted to do in reply was a mute point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    I wouldnt be too quick to right off Bute. This wasnt about how good Bute was/is. Froch looked like he would walk through walls last night and there was nothing Bute could do about it.

    I hope it wasnt a Jeff lacy type loss (although the comparisons are there) and that Bute can come back. The guys got skills, problem for Bute last night is that Carl Froch didnt care about skills, he was steamrollering Bute, what Bute did or wanted to do in reply was a mute point.
    Totally on the ball.

    Froch looked like he meant business tonight. No messing around being faux slick. Bute hit him and Froch responded with fury. He hasn't fought with that intensity for a long time. It was there in spurts against Kessler, a bit at the end of Ward. But this time from the off and ripping apart a champion many people had time for. It was brutal.

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    Bute's Trainer Discusses The Froch Loss, Rematch, More - Boxing News

    I dont think Bute would want anymore of Froch. I was surprised that Bute couldnt handle the pressure, I thought he would have boxed a lot more but he just couldnt get into a flow at all. I was surprised how quick Froch was to start the fight and thats why he won. I wish he could have started like that against Ward and the fight would have been different. I think if Froch can beat Kessler then one day he could have one more go at Ward. We will see though.

    I dont know where Bute goes from this, this really would have taken away his confidence. I hope he can bounce back, that would be a tough one though to bounce back from. He got punished.

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    I think fighters that have talent as slick boxers are able to rebound better than more one sided fighters. Bute will need to work on his defense, but it will be a while before he really gets back in with a top contender.

    I want Bute to fight the following: Pavlik, Abraham, Dirrell.

    Froch should go after Ward again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I think fighters that have talent as slick boxers are able to rebound better than more one sided fighters. Bute will need to work on his defense, but it will be a while before he really gets back in with a top contender.

    I want Bute to fight the following: Pavlik, Abraham, Dirrell.

    Froch should go after Ward again.
    Froch want's to forget about Ward, he would get beat again as I feel Ward has his number.

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