Non-British perspective: Froch easier to like than was Calzaghe

[Fenster]

Would Froch be number one if Ward wasn't around?

No Kessler would.

In fact, if Ward wasn't around Kessler would have a very high P4P ranking.

Probably, but not by much. I have them pretty much neck and neck.

Calzaghe was brilliant though, let's not forget that. I'm not saying Froch is better, but I can't rubbish either of them. Froch is still fighting though. Opinions change.

I agree 100% James.

Froch has carved himself a place into supermiddle history by fighting top ranked fighters back-to-back. It's virtually unheard of in any division in any era.

Calzaghe established himself as the king of the supermiddles during his era.

Only very childish fools could rubbish the success of these boxers. Fact.

[0james0]

Froch is more likeable than Calzaghe, certainly for a neutral.

His guns blazing style, his humility outside the ring, the fact he appears willing to fight anyone seemingly better than him.

Who was better we will never know. Not yet anyway. Froch still has a couple fights in him, including an almost definite Kessler rematch. That could change many people's perception, would lose the whole Joe beat Kessler, Kessler beat Froch argument.

I like both fighters, I don't even want to have to split them on who I prefer. I think Calzaghe would have beat Froch if they fought, but that doesn't mean I think he is the better fighter. It's a bit of a rock, paper, scissors problem. Styles beat other styles. A bit like Ward would probably do another job on Froch if they fought again.

I think Froch should stick to fighting in Nottingham. He's done his share of travelling and some. He's proved himself to be fearless even in the lions den. He is clearly better when fighting at home.



Out of interest, Calzaghe vs Ward? Who would you pick?

[Althugz]

Froch is more likeable than Calzaghe, certainly for a neutral.

His guns blazing style, his humility outside the ring, the fact he appears willing to fight anyone seemingly better than him.

Who was better we will never know. Not yet anyway. Froch still has a couple fights in him, including an almost definite Kessler rematch. That could change many people's perception, would lose the whole Joe beat Kessler, Kessler beat Froch argument.

I like both fighters, I don't even want to have to split them on who I prefer. I think Calzaghe would have beat Froch if they fought, but that doesn't mean I think he is the better fighter. It's a bit of a rock, paper, scissors problem. Styles beat other styles. A bit like Ward would probably do another job on Froch if they fought again.

I think Froch should stick to fighting in Nottingham. He's done his share of travelling and some. He's proved himself to be fearless even in the lions den. He is clearly better when fighting at home.



Out of interest, Calzaghe vs Ward? Who would you pick?

Couldn't have put it better myself, James.
And in answer to your question - I think Ward spoils Calzaghes rhythm on route to a 116-112 type victory. Ugly, ugly fight.

[ross]

Out of interest, Calzaghe vs Ward? Who would you pick?

Ward got bullied late by Bika and had to hold on and on and on

I think Ward gets beaten by Pascals fast combinations. Ward is taking on Pascals left overs