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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post

    I think they literally add too much class to the system. There are families that have inherited their wealth from years of pillaging of resources of other peoples countries. Working class people cannot get jobs as lawyers, mp's and bankers. It stinks.

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    The Royal family do not add class. They represent all that should have been washed away by now. Master is right, Britain lacks class because of what the ruling elites have been perpetuating for the better part of the last 40 years. Social mobility is at an all time low. We are gradually moving back to serfdom and still the monarchy lords it over all.

    Time for the pitchforks and to put them on Bonfires. Out with class and in with revolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    The Royal family do not add class. They represent all that should have been washed away by now. Master is right, Britain lacks class because of what the ruling elites have been perpetuating for the better part of the last 40 years. Social mobility is at an all time low. We are gradually moving back to serfdom and still the monarchy lords it over all.

    Time for the pitchforks and to put them on Bonfires. Out with class and in with revolution.
    I agree social mobility is rubbish but that's not the royal family's fault. The only major country with worse social mobility than Britain is America where they don't have a monarch. Countries like Sweden and Norway are top of the social mobility table and have monarchies. The system in Britain and America isn't going to change because we don't invest enough in education like the high social mobility countries do.

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    The reason why do not invest in education like the high social mobility countries do is because Turkey do not vote for Christmas, it will stop their children from getting the jobs they have lined up for them.
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    The reason why do not invest in education like the high social mobility countries do is because Turkey do not vote for Christmas, it will stop their children from getting the jobs they have lined up for them.
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    If the Queen was a patriotic Brit she would be with the occupy London types, but she isn't. She represents the status quo and readily endorses it. She's probably a nice old lady, but I don't care about that. I'm sure some nice people worked for the SS too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    If the Queen was a patriotic Brit she would be with the occupy London types, but she isn't. She represents the status quo and readily endorses it. She's probably a nice old lady, but I don't care about that. I'm sure some nice people worked for the SS too.
    That is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    If the Queen was a patriotic Brit she would be with the occupy London types, but she isn't. She represents the status quo and readily endorses it. She's probably a nice old lady, but I don't care about that. I'm sure some nice people worked for the SS too.
    That is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.
    No, it is a perfectly logical argument.

    I have done my share of grafting and living hard and have reached a stage where I can sit back and say what is mine is mine. I competed to get my job, the Queen certainly didn't. I pay taxes on my work, I do not take them. Furthermore what I earn is tiny in comparison to someone like the Queen. Her income is more on a par with a banker than an ordinary English person. I align myself with the ordinary Englishman, she can't. Lots of men let the wife organise the bills. It is hardly a Royalist characteristic. I cook my own meals 3 times a day and work. She doesn't.

    I seem more spoilt, out of touch etc? What a lot of nonsense. I don't see how I am spoilt. I don't wear poncy crowns or specially designed clothes. I don't live in an assortment of palaces. I am a routine person, worrying about his declining standards of living like every other working man.

    I also hate the argument that I cannot lecture on being a real Brit because I live overseas. I was born and raised as an Englishman and am the archetypal Englishman. Unlike the Queen I observe and state what I feel about the society I was raised in and return too sporadically (2 months this year).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    If the Queen was a patriotic Brit she would be with the occupy London types, but she isn't. She represents the status quo and readily endorses it. She's probably a nice old lady, but I don't care about that. I'm sure some nice people worked for the SS too.
    That is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.
    No, it is a perfectly logical argument.

    I have done my share of grafting and living hard and have reached a stage where I can sit back and say what is mine is mine. I competed to get my job, the Queen certainly didn't. I pay taxes on my work, I do not take them. Furthermore what I earn is tiny in comparison to someone like the Queen. Her income is more on a par with a banker than an ordinary English person. I align myself with the ordinary Englishman, she can't. Lots of men let the wife organise the bills. It is hardly a Royalist characteristic. I cook my own meals 3 times a day and work. She doesn't.

    I seem more spoilt, out of touch etc? What a lot of nonsense. I don't see how I am spoilt. I don't wear poncy crowns or specially designed clothes. I don't live in an assortment of palaces. I am a routine person, worrying about his declining standards of living like every other working man.

    I also hate the argument that I cannot lecture on being a real Brit because I live overseas. I was born and raised as an Englishman and am the archetypal Englishman. Unlike the Queen I observe and state what I feel about the society I was raised in and return too sporadically (2 months this year).
    I like this!!!
    Very true sir, the queen is pointless and those idiots who enoy watching her like an episode of house are sickening!! I got more respect for hitler, Atleast he made a difference!!!! Killing Jews is no different from Americans killing Americans!!! I refuse to support her and her expensive tastes!!
    Tax will never go down ever and if it does then it will go up double to cover the give away!!
    By the way your vote will never count!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why do not invest in education like the high social mobility countries do is because Turkey do not vote for Christmas, it will stop their children from getting the jobs they have lined up for them.
    It's a little more complicated than that. The offspring of the people in charge aren't ever going to have a problem getting top jobs. You'll always be able to look after your kids if you have enough money and connections. The problem is the kind of funding necessary to provide quality tertiary education to intelligent members of the 99%, or should I say the 90%. If you're going to provide that level of funding then societal pressure to provide similar funding for healthcare, primary and secondary education, adult training etc. pushes you in the direction of a Scandanavian-style egalitarian society, with the wealthy paying a vastly increased share of the tax burden, etc. etc.

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