Non-British perspective: Froch easier to like than was Calzaghe

[p4pking]

Can a mod delete this thread? It's fucking garbage, there has been no debate from the get go.

[Plopeater]

Can a mod delete this thread? It's fucking garbage, there has been no debate from the get go.

This thread is excellent, lets debate the merit of what has been said either side

[erics44]

Can a mod delete this thread? It's fucking garbage, there has been no debate from the get go.

youre just biased

grow up yer troll

[Althugz]

Can a mod delete this thread? It's fucking garbage, there has been no debate from the get go.

youre just biased

grow up yer troll

This thread is awesome

[erics44]

Can a mod delete this thread? It's fucking garbage, there has been no debate from the get go.

youre just biased

grow up yer troll

This thread is awesome

i know, which isnt unusual coz threads about calzaghe being a slapper are usually this good

i love them

someone says calazaghe slaps and then someone says he doesnt then someone else says that someone is biased

it doesnt get any better

[Plopeater]

Can a mod delete this thread? It's fucking garbage, there has been no debate from the get go.

youre just biased

grow up yer troll

This thread is awesome

Agreed

[Althugz]

For gods sakes Tito! How dare you question JC's career and choice to fight Peter Manfredo Jr in his 40 something'th fight?? Can't you see he challenged himself at least 3 or 4 times in his career!? Such a hater!!

[Dia bando]

For gods sakes Tito! How dare you question JC's career and choice to fight Peter Manfredo Jr in his 40 something'th fight?? Can't you see he challenged himself at least 3 or 4 times in his career!? Such a hater!!

At it again.

[Glinchdogg]

Your right froch is way easier to like than calzaghe

[Dia bando]

For gods sakes Tito! How dare you question JC's career and choice to fight Peter Manfredo Jr in his 40 something'th fight?? Can't you see he challenged himself at least 3 or 4 times in his career!? Such a hater!!

May I ask you is there any Turkish Boxers , that are World Champions in the pro ranks I can't think of any
can you smart ass.

[Althugz]

For gods sakes Tito! How dare you question JC's career and choice to fight Peter Manfredo Jr in his 40 something'th fight?? Can't you see he challenged himself at least 3 or 4 times in his career!? Such a hater!!

May I ask you is there any Turkish Boxers , that are World Champions in the pro ranks I can't think of any
can you smart ass.

I'm British "smart ass" - Which also has zero to do with JC's credentials as a boxer. My parents are cypriot.

As for your question, there have been a few but they mostly sucked. Firat Arslan, Oktay Urkal at welter (was he ever champ?), Selcuk Aydin will probably get his hands on a useless trinket at some point (he sucks balls).

I still don't get your point? Did you have one apart from the ever mature, "My country is better than yours?"

This ladies and gents is exactly what I mean by "The Brits" that can't be objective. It's not all of us but many just can't. Blind patriotism I'm afraid I don't do..Which is why I say what I see when it comes to JC's career whilst you merely go off topic about Turkish fighters and other such irrelevant fluff.

Let's stay on topic shall we?

[Dia bando]

For gods sakes Tito! How dare you question JC's career and choice to fight Peter Manfredo Jr in his 40 something'th fight?? Can't you see he challenged himself at least 3 or 4 times in his career!? Such a hater!!

May I ask you is there any Turkish Boxers , that are World Champions in the pro ranks I can't think of any
can you smart ass.

I'm British "smart ass" - Which also has zero to do with JC's credentials as a boxer. My parents are cypriot.

As for your question, there have been a few but they mostly sucked. Firat Arslan, Oktay Urkal at welter (was he ever champ?), Selcuk Aydin will probably get his hands on a useless trinket at some point (he sucks balls).

I still don't get your point? Did you have one apart from the ever mature, "My country is better than yours?"

This ladies and gents is exactly what I mean by "The Brits" that can't be objective. It's not all of us but many just can't. Blind patriotism I'm afraid I don't do..Which is why I say what I see when it comes to JC's career whilst you merely go off topic about Turkish fighters and other such irrelevant fluff.

Let's stay on topic shall we?

Did I hit a nerve.

[Dia bando]

You must have spent some time on Boxrec , it's not normally like you have a answer for every thing
as you say you are all way's right.

[Beanz]

For gods sakes Tito! How dare you question JC's career and choice to fight Peter Manfredo Jr in his 40 something'th fight?? Can't you see he challenged himself at least 3 or 4 times in his career!? Such a hater!!

May I ask you is there any Turkish Boxers , that are World Champions in the pro ranks I can't think of any
can you smart ass.

I'm British "smart ass" - Which also has zero to do with JC's credentials as a boxer. My parents are cypriot.

As for your question, there have been a few but they mostly sucked. Firat Arslan, Oktay Urkal at welter (was he ever champ?), Selcuk Aydin will probably get his hands on a useless trinket at some point (he sucks balls).

I still don't get your point? Did you have one apart from the ever mature, "My country is better than yours?"

This ladies and gents is exactly what I mean by "The Brits" that can't be objective. It's not all of us but many just can't. Blind patriotism I'm afraid I don't do..Which is why I say what I see when it comes to JC's career whilst you merely go off topic about Turkish fighters and other such irrelevant fluff.

Let's stay on topic shall we?

When you refer to "Brits" in the third person and then have a Turkish Flag as your first flag next to your avatar how is anyone supposed to guess that your parents are Cypriot and that you class yourself as British? You are projecting a blind patriotism that really is not there for most posters in this debate. Your own prejudice has blinded you to the facts that the only ones getting emotional and "angry" in this debate are the Calzaghe haters.

You because you are a bit of a noob who used to hate boxing and still have to fully appreciate it's complexities, start calling Brit fans "deluded", moderators "morons" and "douche lords" and saying things like it was "Jeff Lacy FFS", Lacy was the overwhelming favourite much like Bute in the Froch fight.

Titofan started with his opening post, whilst claiming to be about comparing Calzaghe with Froch, he quickly degenerated into slagging off Calzaghe ,with nonsensical arguments about him slapping and having a "gaudy record", whatever that is,maybe because Trinidad lost to Roy Jones Jr and Hopkins? who knows. It then turns out that he hadn't bothered to watch a lot of his fights or find out much about his change of styles, not surprising really from someone who finishes the same post saying of Froch "I'd like to see him fight more in the U.S., where we'd have more of a chance to see him" Well guess what? nobody stateside was interested because they had already written him off. When Calzaghe fought Kessler in front of 50 000 fans at the Millenium stadium they televised that in America, that must say something about Joe Calzaghe's likeability.

[TitoFan]

...maybe because Trinidad lost to Roy Jones Jr and Hopkins? who knows.

Ok bro... I don't dislike you as I do Fenny, whose arrogance is surpassed only by his non-sensical arguments. But I'm noticing a disturbing trend here. You don't counter an argument against Calzaghe's style by lashing out at how many champion boxers Turkey has or doesn't have, or by mentioning Trinidad's losses. Trust me.... it doesn't look good in what should be a debate about Calzaghe's style.

Some of you people need to learn debating techniques. But I'm not picking on you. I've seen some other doozies on this thread. For instance... a poster claimed Ali used to slap also. But when I gave him a technical explanation as to why Ali was not a slapper.... his counter argument was: "Oh yes he did." Haven't heard from him since.

Someone else reads my argument about why Calzaghe's opponents haven't been all that.... and counters with: "Oh yeah? List the fighters you claim Calzaghe ducked?" Hard to argue with warped logic like that.