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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Bradley is ultimately a pressure fighter who lacks power... I'm thinking it could be a bit embarrassing...

    To be completely honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this fight went just like the Hatton fight.
    That's what I am predicting too. Remember how Tim got caught with a left in an exchange vs Holt? Imagine getting caught the same way but with a bit more power coming from Pac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Bradley is ultimately a pressure fighter who lacks power... I'm thinking it could be a bit embarrassing...

    To be completely honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this fight went just like the Hatton fight.
    That's what I am predicting too. Remember how Tim got caught with a left in an exchange vs Holt? Imagine getting caught the same way but with a bit more power coming from Pac.
    Pacquiao's power at 147 is overrated. He has had just one knockout at 147 and that was in the twelth round against Cotto. On the flip side, Bradley's recuperative powers are second to none. He showed that in the Holt fight, an example you brought up.

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    Good points Rantcatrat,
    Sure, I dislike Pac, his team, and Arum but it doesn’t blind me to see that Pac has what it takes to beat Tim. Let’s go through your points.
    Explain why it matters if Tim isn't a big puncher. Lumbering oafs with big punches don't beat Pacquiao. See Margarito. Boxers beat Pacquiao; Tim Bradley is a boxer. He hasn't become 28-0 because of his punching power. Is JMM a big puncher at 140 or 147? News flash: JMM hasn't knocked one person out above 135. Yet, he gave Pacquiao all he could handle.

    Good point. Difference between Tim and JMM is that JMM is a better counter puncher and can bust Manny up as we have seen in their 3 fights, which many commentators, boxing experts, and fans think he won. Tim seems to like to engage in exchanges and that spells disaster if you don’t have any kind of punching power like he does vs a guy that has power in his punches. Sure, Tim can change his plan and try to box but after seeing all 3 JMM fights, do you really think Tim would get the nod in the cards?
    Bradley also fought at 152 in the amateurs in 2004.

    Not sure if this would really change anything if this was way back in 2004. He has been fighting below that weight for a while now.
    He opens up too much when exchanging punches? To that I contend that he smothers well. He'll be able to get inside on Pacquiao. Make the fight ugly. When was the last time you saw that type of style against Pacquiao?

    Yes he does opens up too much when exchanging punches. He could make the fight ugly if he had more power in his punches but he just doesn’t. Many guys avoid exchanging punches with Manny because they know what’s coming. JMM went inside, brawled, and also exchanged here and there. The guys that have beaten Manny have boxed him: Erik Morales and JMM x 3.

    Imagine what would happen if he goes for the exchange like he did with Holt and gets connected with a left that’s more powerful than Holt’s. And we know Manny’s best weapon is his left.

    I really wish I was wrong as I want to see Manny lose again. What a great feeling it would be to see that Manny's and Arum's plans to pick someone they thought they could beat would backfire like it did vs JMM III but actually see Tim getting the win. But I just can't see Tim winning as much as I want him to.

    Signature bet? :P
    Last edited by Chino; 06-07-2012 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Good points Rantcatrat,
    Sure, I dislike Pac, his team, and Arum but it doesn’t blind me to see that Pac has what it takes to beat Tim. Let’s go through your points.
    Explain why it matters if Tim isn't a big puncher. Lumbering oafs with big punches don't beat Pacquiao. See Margarito. Boxers beat Pacquiao; Tim Bradley is a boxer. He hasn't become 28-0 because of his punching power. Is JMM a big puncher at 140 or 147? News flash: JMM hasn't knocked one person out above 135. Yet, he gave Pacquiao all he could handle.

    Good point. Difference between Tim and JMM is that JMM is a better counter puncher and can bust Manny up as we have seen in their 3 fights, which many commentators, boxing experts, and fans think he won. Tim seems to like to engage in exchanges and that spells disaster if you don’t have any kind of punching power like he does vs a guy that has power in his punches. Sure, Tim can change his plan and try to box but after seeing all 3 JMM fights, do you really think Tim would get the nod in the cards?
    Bradley also fought at 152 in the amateurs in 2004.

    Not sure if this would really change anything if this was way back in 2004. He has been fighting below that weight for a while now.
    He opens up too much when exchanging punches? To that I contend that he smothers well. He'll be able to get inside on Pacquiao. Make the fight ugly. When was the last time you saw that type of style against Pacquiao?

    Yes he does opens up too much when exchanging punches. He could make the fight ugly if he had more power in his punches but he just doesn’t. Many guys avoid exchanging punches with Manny because they know what’s coming. JMM went inside, brawled, and also exchanged here and there. The guys that have beaten Manny have boxed him: Erik Morales and JMM x 3.

    Imagine what would happen if he goes for the exchange like he did with Holt and gets connected with a left that’s more powerful than Holt’s. And we know Manny’s best weapon is his left.

    I really wish I was wrong as I want to see Manny lose again. What a great feeling it would be to see that Manny's and Arum's plans to pick someone they thought they could beat would backfire like it did vs JMM III but actually see Tim getting the win. But I just can't see Tim winning as much as I want him to.

    Signature bet? :P
    It's a tough signature bet for me to take. I'd be an idiot if I didn't think the odds are against Bradley. I can't lie. Let me consider it tonight and tomorrow.

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    Default Re: I'm picking Bradley

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Bradley is ultimately a pressure fighter who lacks power... I'm thinking it could be a bit embarrassing...

    To be completely honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this fight went just like the Hatton fight.
    That's what I am predicting too. Remember how Tim got caught with a left in an exchange vs Holt? Imagine getting caught the same way but with a bit more power coming from Pac.
    Pacquiao's power at 147 is overrated. He has had just one knockout at 147 and that was in the twelth round against Cotto. On the flip side, Bradley's recuperative powers are second to none. He showed that in the Holt fight, an example you brought up.
    I think Pacquiao is more concerned about making an entertaining fight. I think he feels guilty if the fight is not good for making so much money. Watching him back off of Cotto is what makes me think that.

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    Default Re: I'm picking Bradley

    I just watched the weigh-in on HBO.

    Pacquiao is even taller than against this dude who can't punch.

    IMHO. Bradley presents no threat (except for the headbutt).

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