When Carl Froch won the World Title....3 Times

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I dont remember Froch being the underdog against Abraham?

In fact, Abrahams first loss was against Dirrell and I said Abraham would lose as he just isnt strong enough for super middle. Then somehow you have him as favourite going in to afight withFroch who beat Dirrell?

Ross Froch was teh underdog because he was coming off a loss aswell vs Kessler and was fighting away in finland , Yep Abraham was away from hoem but this was Abraham's promotional outfit that was staging the fight

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Froch fought on even terms with Kessler where Abraham was made to look small and slow by Dirrell, Abraham was also dropped. Id be very suprised if any bookies had Abraham the favourite going in to this fight.

[fightscorecollector]

Froch fought on even terms with Kessler where Abraham was made to look small and slow by Dirrell, Abraham was also dropped. Id be very suprised if any bookies had Abraham the favourite going in to this fight.

Im very sure mate , remember Froch beat Dirrell but many including me had him losing , then he loses vs Kessler (i had froch winning by 1 ) , Froch plain refused to fight in Germany so Finland was sought But still he was the underdog because of his previous 2 performances..many felt he lost the 2 of them

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

[erics44]

Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

This is what I said in the poll thread and I also picked Froch by KO in the poll

Id like to see Froch forget about loading up on those big shots. I used to mention them before he fought Pascal, he seems to think hes quicker than he is, he loads up and swings and rhe opponent is already out the way. He did it with Ward too. He needs to think like Calzaghe here and throw lots of sharp shots, stuff that will either actually land or at least keep Bute thinking. If he just waits for the single jabs or or uppercuts, he will give Zbute plenty of time to land first. He needs to pressure Bute and make him feel uncomfortable and make him work and tire. Froch is used toworking hard late wheras Bute isnt.

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But what was your pick?

[erics44]

Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

This is what I said in the poll thread and I also picked Froch by KO in the poll

Id like to see Froch forget about loading up on those big shots. I used to mention them before he fought Pascal, he seems to think hes quicker than he is, he loads up and swings and rhe opponent is already out the way. He did it with Ward too. He needs to think like Calzaghe here and throw lots of sharp shots, stuff that will either actually land or at least keep Bute thinking. If he just waits for the single jabs or or uppercuts, he will give Zbute plenty of time to land first. He needs to pressure Bute and make him feel uncomfortable and make him work and tire. Froch is used toworking hard late wheras Bute isnt.

if you picked froch against both AA and bute then you are one of only a few

if you believed froch would dominate AA as he did and KO bute as "easily" as he did then you are one of a very small minority

its quite obvious from the threads where both fights were discussed prior to them happenning that froch was a significant underdog in both fights

a lot of people had bute as the number 1 SMW, a little less so after ward v froch but before people thought he had the beating of the lot

i think one point that the op is making is that froch has won 3 world titles and prior to two of the fights he was a massive underdog which makes it an even better achievement

i dont remember anyone being in a situation like that and overcomming the odds like that before

[erics44]

I dont remember Froch being the underdog against Abraham?

In fact, Abrahams first loss was against Dirrell and I said Abraham would lose as he just isnt strong enough for super middle. Then somehow you have him as favourite going in to afight withFroch who beat Dirrell?

Ross Froch was teh underdog because he was coming off a loss aswell vs Kessler and was fighting away in finland , Yep Abraham was away from hoem but this was Abraham's promotional outfit that was staging the fight

froch was a huge underdog against AA, according to the fans probably more of an underdog than against BUte

check out some threads on here from before the fight