When Carl Froch won the World Title....3 Times

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Froch fought on even terms with Kessler where Abraham was made to look small and slow by Dirrell, Abraham was also dropped. Id be very suprised if any bookies had Abraham the favourite going in to this fight.

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Froch fought on even terms with Kessler where Abraham was made to look small and slow by Dirrell, Abraham was also dropped. Id be very suprised if any bookies had Abraham the favourite going in to this fight.

Im very sure mate , remember Froch beat Dirrell but many including me had him losing , then he loses vs Kessler (i had froch winning by 1 ) , Froch plain refused to fight in Germany so Finland was sought But still he was the underdog because of his previous 2 performances..many felt he lost the 2 of them

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

This is what I said in the poll thread and I also picked Froch by KO in the poll

Id like to see Froch forget about loading up on those big shots. I used to mention them before he fought Pascal, he seems to think hes quicker than he is, he loads up and swings and rhe opponent is already out the way. He did it with Ward too. He needs to think like Calzaghe here and throw lots of sharp shots, stuff that will either actually land or at least keep Bute thinking. If he just waits for the single jabs or or uppercuts, he will give Zbute plenty of time to land first. He needs to pressure Bute and make him feel uncomfortable and make him work and tire. Froch is used toworking hard late wheras Bute isnt.

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But what was your pick?

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But what was your pick?

You cant have read my post properly...

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

This is what I said in the poll thread and I also picked Froch by KO in the poll

Id like to see Froch forget about loading up on those big shots. I used to mention them before he fought Pascal, he seems to think hes quicker than he is, he loads up and swings and rhe opponent is already out the way. He did it with Ward too. He needs to think like Calzaghe here and throw lots of sharp shots, stuff that will either actually land or at least keep Bute thinking. If he just waits for the single jabs or or uppercuts, he will give Zbute plenty of time to land first. He needs to pressure Bute and make him feel uncomfortable and make him work and tire. Froch is used toworking hard late wheras Bute isnt.

if you picked froch against both AA and bute then you are one of only a few

if you believed froch would dominate AA as he did and KO bute as "easily" as he did then you are one of a very small minority

its quite obvious from the threads where both fights were discussed prior to them happenning that froch was a significant underdog in both fights

a lot of people had bute as the number 1 SMW, a little less so after ward v froch but before people thought he had the beating of the lot

i think one point that the op is making is that froch has won 3 world titles and prior to two of the fights he was a massive underdog which makes it an even better achievement

i dont remember anyone being in a situation like that and overcomming the odds like that before

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Some might have thout he lost to Dirrell but Dirrell proved how week Abraham is in the super middle division. When he fought Froch, Dirrell fought negative. When he fought Abraham he was bullying him and dropped him. If someone as negative as Dirrell can do that then Froch was always going to win. In fact Froch could have got a stoppage if hed fought like did against Bute.

Abraham may win this title fight he has coming up because the opponent has been stopped before but even if he does, I can see the only big name super middle he will want to defend against being Bute. Also, Abraham will be the only super middle Bute will want, both will look at each other as big name fodder.

hindsight is a beautiful thing

how did you see the froch bute fight going before the fight?

This is what I said in the poll thread and I also picked Froch by KO in the poll

Id like to see Froch forget about loading up on those big shots. I used to mention them before he fought Pascal, he seems to think hes quicker than he is, he loads up and swings and rhe opponent is already out the way. He did it with Ward too. He needs to think like Calzaghe here and throw lots of sharp shots, stuff that will either actually land or at least keep Bute thinking. If he just waits for the single jabs or or uppercuts, he will give Zbute plenty of time to land first. He needs to pressure Bute and make him feel uncomfortable and make him work and tire. Froch is used toworking hard late wheras Bute isnt.

if you picked froch against both AA and bute then you are one of only a few

if you believed froch would dominate AA as he did and KO bute as "easily" as he did then you are one of a very small minority

its quite obvious from the threads where both fights were discussed prior to them happenning that froch was a significant underdog in both fights

a lot of people had bute as the number 1 SMW, a little less so after ward v froch but before people thought he had the beating of the lot

i think one point that the op is making is that froch has won 3 world titles and prior to two of the fights he was a massive underdog which makes it an even better achievement

i dont remember anyone being in a situation like that and overcomming the odds like that before

Take a look at what I wrote in here

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...nd-monaco.html

In england, africa, or hell even in froch's living room, i see no way he beats abraham. He's too slow to do what direll did, leaves his hands down way too much. Abraham will be back to his old ways. Blocking countering and simply wearing down froch for a mid/late stoppage.

Although Dirrell was beating Abraham fairly comfortably I do think Froch will be too much for Abraham.

Abraham cant handle the strength of the supermiddles and I reckon Froch will hurt him. Dirrell put Abraham down and wasted the opportunity. As shite as Froch is, when (not if) he hurts Abraham, he will go for the kill and as clumsy as it may be, it will be the most pressure that Abraham has ever had to deal with.

Abraham stalks opponents but that will suit Froch, he will get plenty of time to try those swinging punches while Abraham gets pushed backwards with his gloves covering his face

Abraham gets stopped late.

If Abraham opens up early and counters Froch, he will stop him. However, if he covers up for the first six rounds and lets Froch fire away, he'll be lucky to see the end of the fight. This is the most compelling fight in the Super 6 so far IMO. Depending on the way it plays out it could go either way. I think both fighters can hurt the other and it'll all come down to who fights the smarter fight.

I dont see this little power house that everyone else does in Abraham

I dont think he can deal with thye strength of the super middles. He was getting handled and pushed around quite easy by Dirrell and Andre is hardly a rough fighter.

The reason Abraham stops people late is because he conserves so much energy doing absolutely fuuck all during the rest of the fight. Froch can actually punch at this weight and I reckon is a bigger puncher than Dirrell who dropped Abraham but Froch will try to stop him where Andre didnt.

Abraham is strong but strong for a middleweight, he doesnt have the same advantage fighting genuine top super middles.