Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
To be honest @Greenbeanz I didn't call Calzaghe or Cleverly English, I used the term British....is Wales all of a sudden not in that little category?

The idea I mean to convey is that the more theatrical/drama queen boxers like Naz are not my favorite and in my view England (& Wales apparently) have produced many of these fighters who are all hat and no cattle. Certainly Calzaghe & Naz were World Class, but to me their theatrics take away from their actual skill. Call me old school, but I like a fighter to be confident, but not over the top cocky, I never have liked those kinds of fighters. When it gets to the point of David Haye where the build up to the fight is more hyped up and talked about than the fight, then you're hurting the sport, but hey, maybe I'm wrong. You fellas seem more than willing to shell out money to watch a retired boxer fight a banned boxer for some trinket title, I have to tell you as a boxing fan I'm more interested in Price & Fury and what they can do. They've not run their mouths, they've not made t-shirts, they've just fought and I respect that more than the attention whores.
"I don't mean to disrespect Calzaghe and I'm not denying Naz's talent I just think that when you let your talent do the talking you get more respect. It's great that guys like Hatton, Froch, Cleverly, Price, & Fury are turning things around for England..."

Once again Lyle you are assuming. You are lumping all British fans together and while many enjoy the theatrics of fighters like Nas and Haye, many like you, are similarly unimpressed by their out of ring personas. The idea that any hype can be bad for the sport is ridiculous. Plenty of fight build ups have been more interesting than the actual fights. Britain does not have a patent on over the top cocky fighters, they are in the minority, but quite naturally their big mouths will make them more obvious from afar. Not only are you doing all other British boxers a disservice by suggesting that because a few brash fighters sell their fights in a manner you disapprove of , the whole "English" game needs turning round, like @Althugz you are also revealing your deep ignorance.

Altug I really do not understand your one minute liking characters like Nas and Eubank, who was a prime example of an over the top cocky fighter, and the next minute congratulating people who dismiss their achievements because they do not like their style. You can not separate the style of people like Nas, Eubank, Haye and Calzaghe from their brash and arrogant personalities. They are one and the same thing. You really think you can get in a Boxing ring and put on an act ? Supreme confidence even when misguided is what allows athletes to achieve great things. If you don't think you are great you will not dictate things in the ring. The belief that you are better than everyone else is the starting point once you get to these guy's levels.

For the record I am a fan of Marquez and Nas, Frazier and Ali, Hatton and Calzaghe. Price,Chisora and Haye, Quigg ,Munroe and Frampton. etc etc etc