To those who think the decision was fair..........

[ross]

Fuck off!

As if a boxer would say that!

Pacquaio hardly looked amazed when the decision was read out!

As for Marquez saying Manny wan 4 rounds.... There are 12!

The only people really upset with this decision are Arum, the Mayweathers and Pacquiaos team. They can now knock down the revenue for a Mayweather v Pacquiao fight down by at least 50%. even the die hard idiots in here with the tissues out do not beleive that on his best day Manny could beat Floyd and they wouldnt want to witness his slaughter

[chris6878]

Fuck off!

As if a boxer would say that!

Pacquaio hardly looked amazed when the decision was read out!

As for Marquez saying Manny wan 4 rounds.... There are 12!

The only people really upset with this decision are Arum, the Mayweathers and Pacquiaos team. They can now knock down the revenue for a Mayweather v Pacquiao fight down by at least 50%. even the die hard idiots in here with the tissues out do not beleive that on his best day Manny could beat Floyd and they wouldnt want to witness his slaughter

"Ill have to go back and watch the tape and see if I won."

How many victorious boxers said that

[ross]

Hes being polite.

Manny hardly did the Hopkins act either

Many cant take drugs any more and has no skills, he falls over his own feet!

Watching the last round reminded me of Calzaghe v Lacy. Pacquiao just looks slow and clumsy against an actual live opponent.

[TitoFan]

Fuck off!

As if a boxer would say that!

Pacquaio hardly looked amazed when the decision was read out!

As for Marquez saying Manny wan 4 rounds.... There are 12!

The only people really upset with this decision are Arum, the Mayweathers and Pacquiaos team. They can now knock down the revenue for a Mayweather v Pacquiao fight down by at least 50%. even the die hard idiots in here with the tissues out do not beleive that on his best day Manny could beat Floyd and they wouldnt want to witness his slaughter

Whether or not Pacquiao would ever beat Floyd has nothing to do with the fact that this was still a bullshit decision.

[arcanum26]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

[Manos de Piedra]

Very unfair decision, Pac should have won a UD.

[ross]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

I wouldnt pay any attention to press row scores. They arent qualified judges and have likely never even trained to be a judge, which would be a good idea so they could try and give their readers an educated view rather than just their biased opinion. Also, its pro boxing not amateur, so compubox punch stats means nothing. Did you realise that any other punch than a jab is counted as a power punch?

[arcanum26]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

I wouldnt pay any attention to press row scores. They arent qualified judges and have likely never even trained to be a judge, which would be a good idea so they could try and give their readers an educated view rather than just their biased opinion. Also, its pro boxing not amateur, so compubox punch stats means nothing. Did you realise that any other punch than a jab is counted as a power punch?

Thing is, Compubox scores for this fight was tremendously in favor of Pac. If it was closer then you can make a case how Compubox is totally erroneous but when you have qualified individuals (I'm assuming you'd need some qualifications to be able to score punches for Compubox) seeing one fighter out landing his opponent by an almost 2 to 1 margin, then it's quite possible that my assessment and most everyone else's are right in that Manny did out point Tim.

Also, I tend to respect media/press row scores as I'm aware that they've been fans of the sport far longer than myself and most everyone else. Otherwise, why would they be there in the first place?

[Fenster]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

I wouldnt pay any attention to press row scores. They arent qualified judges and have likely never even trained to be a judge, which would be a good idea so they could try and give their readers an educated view rather than just their biased opinion. Also, its pro boxing not amateur, so compubox punch stats means nothing. Did you realise that any other punch than a jab is counted as a power punch?

Are you taking the piss?

You're saying nobodies opinion counts unless they are a qualified judge?

[ross]

[QUOTE=Fenster;1078548][QUOTE=ross;1078538][QUOTE=arcanum26;1078533]Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

I wouldnt pay any attention to press row scores. They arent qualified judges and have likely never even trained to be a judge, which would be a good idea so they could try and give their readers an educated view rather than just their biased opinion. Also, its pro boxing not amateur, so compubox punch stats means nothing. Did you realise that any other punch than a jab is counted as a power punch?

Are you taking the piss?

You're saying nobodies opinion counts unless they are a qualified judge?

No im not taking the fucking piss!

I used to box and a year ago I became a qualified aba judge. The is a massive difference between who you think is winning when you are watching a fight as enjoyment to when you are a qualified judge and have to sit and concentrate and view the fight as objectively as you can. It makes me laugh all these twats with their score cards, show me some credentials and ill pay attention, until then ill just do Sheldon Coopers look of "haughty derision" at these sissy cry girls with their make believe scores.

You wouldnt ask a fan of ER to check out your heart?

Haughty derision below!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8g9OszJFIzg

[Fenster]

[QUOTE=ross;1078553][QUOTE=Fenster;1078548][QUOTE=ross;1078538]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

I wouldnt pay any attention to press row scores. They arent qualified judges and have likely never even trained to be a judge, which would be a good idea so they could try and give their readers an educated view rather than just their biased opinion. Also, its pro boxing not amateur, so compubox punch stats means nothing. Did you realise that any other punch than a jab is counted as a power punch?

Are you taking the piss?

You're saying nobodies opinion counts unless they are a qualified judge?

No im not taking the fucking piss!

I used to box and a year ago I became a qualified aba judge. The is a massive difference between who you think is winning when you are watching a fight as enjoyment to when you are a qualified judge and have to sit and concentrate and view the fight as objectively as you can. It makes me laugh all these twats with their score cards, show me some credentials and ill pay attention, until then ill just do Sheldon Coopers look of "haughty derision" at these sissy cry girls with their make believe scores.

You wouldnt ask a fan of ER to check out your heart?

Haughty derision below!

YouTube - The Big Bang Theory - Sheldon meets his date.

As a qualified amatuer judge your opinion on pro boxing is worthless.

We are discussing pro boxing. You need to qualify as a pro judge, right?

[ross]

[QUOTE=Fenster;1078557][QUOTE=ross;1078553][QUOTE=Fenster;1078548]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

I wouldnt pay any attention to press row scores. They arent qualified judges and have likely never even trained to be a judge, which would be a good idea so they could try and give their readers an educated view rather than just their biased opinion. Also, its pro boxing not amateur, so compubox punch stats means nothing. Did you realise that any other punch than a jab is counted as a power punch?

Are you taking the piss?

You're saying nobodies opinion counts unless they are a qualified judge?

No im not taking the fucking piss!

I used to box and a year ago I became a qualified aba judge. The is a massive difference between who you think is winning when you are watching a fight as enjoyment to when you are a qualified judge and have to sit and concentrate and view the fight as objectively as you can. It makes me laugh all these twats with their score cards, show me some credentials and ill pay attention, until then ill just do Sheldon Coopers look of "haughty derision" at these sissy cry girls with their make believe scores.

You wouldnt ask a fan of ER to check out your heart?

Haughty derision below!

YouTube - The Big Bang Theory - Sheldon meets his date.

As a qualified amatuer judge your opinion on pro boxing is worthless.

We are discussing pro boxing. You need to qualify as a pro judge, right?

I didnt say won way or the other who I thought wan

My point was if you read, that there is a massive difference to being a dunce sat in front of a tv screen crying in to a hanky as his favourite fighter was shit and didnt win and a qualified judge scoring a fight.

I used to watch our amateur dinner boxing shows and thought I could score a fight until I took the judges exam and sat with a judge over 10 shows learning what to score. There is a huge difference and you are all talking out your asses as not one of you has a clue how to score a fucking fight!

Ill be surprised if there is anyone else as qualified as myself in here to judge a bout. There may be trainers or coaches but I bet even they havent trained as judges. Yes I agree that pro and am is a world of difference apart but im talking about knowing the difference between watching a bout as a fan and watching as a qualified scoring judge. Until your a qualified judge you wont realise the difference

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

that's pretty good, would be better if you could watch each questionable round, it still shows the writers bias because they are picking out what they think lands or doesn't land - Bradley was only showing shots with no power how the hell did Manuel Medina ever win a fight

[arcanum26]

Came up on a site that I think provides a good analysis of the fight scores - judges and press row. I suggest you guys check it out. Quite a good read.

Pacquiao-Bradley: A second viewing with round by round judges cards, round by round press row cards and round by round compubox stats | Michael D. Sellers

that's pretty good, would be better if you could watch each questionable round, it still shows the writers bias because they are picking out what they think lands or doesn't land - Bradley was only showing shots with no power how the hell did Manuel Medina ever win a fight

I don't see how they would be biased for a fighter when 94% of these people had it in favor of Manny (based on a poll I've seen). I would imagine that they're scoring the fight independently and without listening to outside influences. Don't see any reason why they would be biased for this fight alone as they've already shown they're more than willing and able to score a fight against Manny (see Marquez).