Bute's chin was a known quantity after the first Andrade fight where he was rocked and stayed rocked, and bringing him up in this discussion is erroneous anyway as he's not going to be the one fighting either of these guys.

As for Jose Miguel Cotto hurting him....meh...are you telling me Shane Mosley hits softer than JM Cotto Now if we're talking Miguel Cotto then of course both Canelo and Ortiz get battered, but he's got a depth to his game neither Canelo nor Ortiz has.