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    Default Re: Canelo to face Ortiz

    You know i don't think Cotto would do so well against either of them. People i think are kinda high on him because he took a few rounds off Mayweather. He has not faced a hitter in some time i mean Cotto i think lost to Clotty and Mosley fight i feel was a draw i think next big star at 154 is one of these guys. We will have to wait and see but i don't think Cotto beating a Margarito after he got destroyed in past fights is really that great and Mayweather fight was not really close and he was almost was knocked out by Mayweather in the twelve round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    You know i don't think Cotto would do so well against either of them. People i think are kinda high on him because he took a few rounds off Mayweather. He has not faced a hitter in some time i mean Cotto i think lost to Clotty and Mosley fight i feel was a draw i think next big star at 154 is one of these guys. We will have to wait and see but i don't think Cotto beating a Margarito after he got destroyed in past fights is really that great and Mayweather fight was not really close and he was almost was knocked out by Mayweather in the twelve round.

    I think Cotto beats both Canelo and Ortiz quite handily at this stage of his career... only way he loses is if they wait 2-3 years to make the fight. I think Cotto clearly beat Clottey and the Mosley fight was close, but Cotto clearly won by outboxing the boxer. I also think the victory over Margarito was great, because Cotto changed his style to beat Margarito into submission. And Cotto also gave Mayweather the closest fight he's had in many years. But besides that, I don't disagree with anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    You know i don't think Cotto would do so well against either of them. People i think are kinda high on him because he took a few rounds off Mayweather. He has not faced a hitter in some time i mean Cotto i think lost to Clotty and Mosley fight i feel was a draw i think next big star at 154 is one of these guys. We will have to wait and see but i don't think Cotto beating a Margarito after he got destroyed in past fights is really that great and Mayweather fight was not really close and he was almost was knocked out by Mayweather in the twelve round.
    Cotto would take both of them. Why? Well it's simple, he still packs a big punch, he's a warrior, and has a huge heart, and he can box. There's depth to Cotto's game that Ortiz & Canelo haven't seen. Cotto can fight orthodox or southpaw, he can lead, he can counter, he can stalk a fighter down or make a fighter chase him. And he keeps a balanced head, he doesn't get all emotional in a fight the way Ortiz does. People think Cotto is "finished" because of his fights vs Margarito & Pacquiao, but big hit by loaded wraps and being weight drained and not having a trainer MAY have affected his performances....just saying.

    As for Canelo & Ortiz, it will be a great fight, I just don't expect Victor Ortiz to hurt Canelo or finish the fight on his feet. Ortiz gets a little wild at times and I think Canelo can catch him repeatedly.

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    This is an easy win for Saul, Ortiz will be an easy fight, cannot believe so many people giving Ortiz a chance. Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    This is an easy win for Saul, Ortiz will be an easy fight, cannot believe so many people giving Ortiz a chance. Crazy.
    I don't think anyone was givin him a shot against bertoand he proved us wrong. If he shows up determined like he did against berto and refuses to wilt he's got a great shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    This is an easy win for Saul, Ortiz will be an easy fight, cannot believe so many people giving Ortiz a chance. Crazy.
    I don't think anyone was givin him a shot against bertoand he proved us wrong. If he shows up determined like he did against berto and refuses to wilt he's got a great shot.
    He will get convincingly beat.
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    If Lopez comes to fight, and fights the way he can- aggressively, sitting down on his punches- Ortiz won't be fighting Alvarez. Lopez will stop him in 6-8 rounds.

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    Default Re: Canelo to face Ortiz

    Cotto can't take Canelo's or Victor's shots and I would put money on it.
    What Cotto could do to both is out jab and and circle with the left hook, might win him the decision.
    I just don't think he can handle eithers pressure/strength.
    Cotto would get bullied IMO.

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