Julio Jr. vs. Andy Lee Saturday night fight/chat thread

[Rantcatrat]

Not only has Junior been coddled his entire career..... NOW he's also being protected by being able to wipe all the rules where the sun don't shine. His famous daddy is best friends with Mafioso Jose Sulaiman, and together they're bent on making Junior famous by feeding him bums and flagrantly violating all the rules. Rules..... I might add, that Sulaiman conveniently changes, disregards, and plays with to the benefit of his buddy's coddled son. He'll probably beat Martinez, also.... because he'll be WAY bigger than Martinez when they get into the ring, although according to the WBC he'll just be a middleweight. I think once and for all, they should just change the name of the organization from WBC, to MBC. After all..... those are the only interests being served by them.

If he makes 160 legally, he is entitled to fight there. In recent times, Pavlik and Abraham were pretty big middleweight too.

In regard to his weight, I read a funny tweet on Friday after the weigh in, it was from an obese gentlemen, and it read something like "hey WBC, can I use that scale when I weigh myself too?"

I saw the whole fight and I had Junior winning 4-2 up. It will be a quality fight between Segio and Junior cannot wait.

The scores ranged from 4-2 Chavez to 4-2 Lee. I had it 4-2 Lee, but Lee looked vulnerable all night. Lee's a tall middleweight, but in terms of size, he was dwarfed by Chavez.

[TitoFan]

Not only has Junior been coddled his entire career..... NOW he's also being protected by being able to wipe all the rules where the sun don't shine. His famous daddy is best friends with Mafioso Jose Sulaiman, and together they're bent on making Junior famous by feeding him bums and flagrantly violating all the rules. Rules..... I might add, that Sulaiman conveniently changes, disregards, and plays with to the benefit of his buddy's coddled son. He'll probably beat Martinez, also.... because he'll be WAY bigger than Martinez when they get into the ring, although according to the WBC he'll just be a middleweight. I think once and for all, they should just change the name of the organization from WBC, to MBC. After all..... those are the only interests being served by them.

If he makes 160 legally, he is entitled to fight there. In recent times, Pavlik and Abraham were pretty big middleweight too.

In regard to his weight, I read a funny tweet on Friday after the weigh in, it was from an obese gentlemen, and it read something like "hey WBC, can I use that scale when I weigh myself too?"

I saw the whole fight and I had Junior winning 4-2 up. It will be a quality fight between Segio and Junior cannot wait.

The scores ranged from 4-2 Chavez to 4-2 Lee. I had it 4-2 Lee, but Lee looked vulnerable all night. Lee's a tall middleweight, but in terms of size, he was dwarfed by Chavez.

Pavlik and Abraham are pretty big heavyweights, yes. But they've finished growing into their bodies. Junior could still develop into a light heavy. If, as someone posted above, Sulaiman backtracks from his previous decision to implement same-day weigh-ins..... the rotten smell coming from the WBC Sulaiman-Chavez connection will only get worse. I can imagine Chavez Sr. chastizing Sulaiman for suggesting this rule in the first place.
"What the hell were you thinking, Jose? You trying to get my boy killed?"

Will all the other fishy stuff going on in Junior's fights (twice failing to produce a urine sample, refusal to allow gloves to be inspected, etc, etc, etc).... it won't be long before he starts turning off some fans, if he hasn't done so already.

[shza]

Question:

I know Jr. didn't provide a urine sample pre-fight. At the time, the HBO guys said that because he couldn't produce a pre-fight sample, the TX commission would be taking a sample immediately after the fight, which is apparently permitted under their rules.

I have seen a bunch of posts here about how Jr. didn't provide any sample, but haven't seen reported anywhere that he didn't provide the post-fight sample that HBO said he'd be providing. Can someone confirm (preferably with a link) that that didn't happen?

[armin]

Question:

I know Jr. didn't provide a urine sample pre-fight. At the time, the HBO guys said that because he couldn't produce a pre-fight sample, the TX commission would be taking a sample immediately after the fight, which is apparently permitted under their rules.

I have seen a bunch of posts here about how Jr. didn't provide any sample, but haven't seen reported anywhere that he didn't provide the post-fight sample that HBO said he'd be providing. Can someone confirm (preferably with a link) that that didn't happen?

Don't know if he didn't provide one for this fight, but he didn't get tested for the rubio fight at all you can google it should be mentioned in most any article, on phone so linking is a bitch.

[shza]

Question:

I know Jr. didn't provide a urine sample pre-fight. At the time, the HBO guys said that because he couldn't produce a pre-fight sample, the TX commission would be taking a sample immediately after the fight, which is apparently permitted under their rules.

I have seen a bunch of posts here about how Jr. didn't provide any sample, but haven't seen reported anywhere that he didn't provide the post-fight sample that HBO said he'd be providing. Can someone confirm (preferably with a link) that that didn't happen?

Don't know if he didn't provide one for this fight, but he didn't get tested for the rubio fight at all you can google it should be mentioned in most any article, on phone so linking is a bitch.

I'm well aware that he didn't provide any sample for the Rubio fight. And that he got busted for diuretics previously. My question was very narrow: can someone confirm that he really did not provide a post-fight sample for the Lee fight. Numerous comments here say he provided "no sample," but the only thing I've seen or heard is that he provided no pre-fight sample. Per HBO at the time, he was going to be required to provide a post-fight sample. If he did, and it came out clean, then at least that part of the "unfair advantage" comments ought to go. (The gloves bit is obviously still extremely problematic.)

[IamInuit]

Question:

I know Jr. didn't provide a urine sample pre-fight. At the time, the HBO guys said that because he couldn't produce a pre-fight sample, the TX commission would be taking a sample immediately after the fight, which is apparently permitted under their rules.

I have seen a bunch of posts here about how Jr. didn't provide any sample, but haven't seen reported anywhere that he didn't provide the post-fight sample that HBO said he'd be providing. Can someone confirm (preferably with a link) that that didn't happen?

Fat dan is reporting that he received a tweet from the Texas Commission that he did pre test.

I don't believe it and think it a form of damage control