ADAM BOOTH:Haye 3rd best HW in world! Where would you place Haye right now?

[TitoFan]

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

[erics44]

I also think that haye could well be the third best HW in the world or even 2nd

I havent seen anything from any of the others to tell me he isnt and vital didnt exactly show he still has it in his last fight

to give an official ranking of third is unjust tho

What!

Even Chagaev is level pegging for achievments at heavy

Can everyone just stop and think, what are Hayes achievments at heavy?

What!

Even Chagaev is level pegging for achievments at heavy

Can everyone just stop and think, what are Hayes achievments at heavy?

Bonin, Barrett, Harrison, Valuev, Ruiz, & lost to Wladimir Klitschko....but he has to get credit for talking shit for his entire career. Not everyone is comfortable making an ass out of themselves on such a high level.

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

[boxing prospect]

...you know...I think Huck v Haye would be a very very good fight...

[Leighton]

...you know...I think Huck v Haye would be a very very good fight...

That is a great idea. But does Haye have the heart. I think Haye has the ability to beat most heavyweights but he loves the fame more than the fight. If he was more dedicated and less of a pretty boy then he would probably be third best in the world.

[erics44]

...you know...I think Huck v Haye would be a very very good fight...

That is a great idea. But does Haye have the heart. I think Haye has the ability to beat most heavyweights but he loves the fame more than the fight. If he was more dedicated and less of a pretty boy then he would probably be third best in the world.

yep that would be an unmissable fight

[TitoFan]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

[erics44]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

[TitoFan]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

"Credentials"? What credentials??

Fraudly Harrison? John Ruiz? Valuev? Barrett?
Are you kidding me?
Do you purposely ignore the point being made over and over again, as to how Haye and his people think they can get a free pass to the top of the HW division, just because he was a great cruiserweight? Why is he automatically over fighters like Helenius? Adamek? Arreola?....who have been toiling at HW longer than Haye has, and have fought more credible opposition.

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

[erics44]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

[TitoFan]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

A bit of selective quoting there, Eric.





How about the previous paragraph? Any response to that?

[Fenster]

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

you really dont like him do you?

and i can see tho at the same time you can put that hatred to the back of your mind and be totally objective about the situation

Very good post eric

(i've only quoted your post to see if TitoFan is dumb enough to actually reply to this)

[AdamGB]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

"Credentials"? What credentials??

Fraudly Harrison? John Ruiz? Valuev? Barrett?
Are you kidding me?
Do you purposely ignore the point being made over and over again, as to how Haye and his people think they can get a free pass to the top of the HW division, just because he was a great cruiserweight? Why is he automatically over fighters like Helenius? Adamek? Arreola?....who have been toiling at HW longer than Haye has, and have fought more credible opposition.

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

When you let personalities get in the way of your boxing opinions you look like you know very little.

It is VERY common for the champion in a division to move straight up to a title in the division above.

Very, very common.

Yet because Haye is seen as a dick by many it suddenly becomes an OUTRAGE.

If you can't be objective and unbiased about boxing then don't talk on it.

[Fenster]

you are both right on one thing, david haye is a tool

but this is not connected in any way with boxing ability

for instance, I'm fuckin ace but shit at boxing, get me?

Yes, David Haye is a tool... as we all agree.
But there is so much more than that.
(See below)

That is the problem with Haye and his manager. They think they are above all heavyweights and should not have to fight them because of what he achieved at Cruiserweight. They are so far up there own ass that they cannot see they look like a bunch of prats. There is no way Haye is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world based on his performances. The B level Americans like Arreleo and others would love to stomp on Haye. I also think Price and Fury would stand a chance against Haye.

This pretty much sums up what Haye's all about. I'm sure Haye's fans will have some sort of "counter-point", but nothing can change these facts.

did you just wink at me?

Its all about opinions matey

is david haye good enough to beat every other HW currently aside from the klits?

I think he is you obviously think he isnt

even if he KOs chisora in the first part of the fight a lot of people will still deny his credentials, people just cant seprate their feelings towards him as a man and as a fighter

"Credentials"? What credentials??

Fraudly Harrison? John Ruiz? Valuev? Barrett?
Are you kidding me?
Do you purposely ignore the point being made over and over again, as to how Haye and his people think they can get a free pass to the top of the HW division, just because he was a great cruiserweight? Why is he automatically over fighters like Helenius? Adamek? Arreola?....who have been toiling at HW longer than Haye has, and have fought more credible opposition.

Haye's big mouth GOT him his undeserved freebie.... and he f*cked it up. He robbed people of their PPV money.... then blamed his sprained big toe as the problem. And to think we're giving Victor Ortiz shit about a broken jaw. And now he wants us to give him credit if he beats Chisora? Hell no. Have him EARN another shot at the top, by taking on some of the other, more deserving HW's.

Back of the line, Haye!

When you let personalities get in the way of your boxing opinions you look like you know very little.

It is VERY common for the champion in a division to move straight up to a title in the division above.

Very, very common.

Yet because Haye is seen as a dick by many it suddenly becomes an OUTRAGE.

If you can't be objective and unbiased about boxing then don't talk on it.

Very good advice.

Haye haters, Floyd haters, Naz haters. Some guys just can't seperate personality with ability/success.