ADAM BOOTH:Haye 3rd best HW in world! Where would you place Haye right now?

[erics44]

Which brits do you place over him?

I'm guessing Chisora, you need a way of rationilising how pedestrian Vitali looked in outpointing him, who else though?

When Haye beats Chisora and asuming he does it in style, where do you place him in the UK, what about world?

What are your uk heavyweight rankings?

...(sigh) the point is he's closer to 3rd best in England than 3rd best in the world

As for Vitali looking "pedestrian" he's 40 years old and he still won in a fairly easy manner

Maybe you could argue this if you were saying 1 is closer to 2 than 3 on a number scale but if you are putting it on a scale of ability and having miles between each rank then its not true at all in the slightest little bit, fact is, he very well could be 3rd in the world and if you are honest with yourself you would admit it, there arent really any heavies other than the klits that you would be confident had the beating of david haye, maybe a couple of close fights and in reality you could only really say david price out of the english heavies has any real chance of beating him (and that is slim) so from that respect together with the miles scale analogy it is a fact that he is much closer to being third in the world than third in england when you analise it on any scale that counts, also i really enjoyed writing this in one big block

[El Kabong]

Maybe you could argue this if you were saying 1 is closer to 2 than 3 on a number scale but if you are putting it on a scale of ability and having miles between each rank then its not true at all in the slightest little bit, fact is, he very well could be 3rd in the world and if you are honest with yourself you would admit it, there arent really any heavies other than the klits that you would be confident had the beating of david haye, maybe a couple of close fights and in reality you could only really say david price out of the english heavies has any real chance of beating him (and that is slim) so from that respect together with the miles scale analogy it is a fact that he is much closer to being third in the world than third in england when you analise it on any scale that counts, also i really enjoyed writing this in one big block

I don't discount Haye's "ability" I doubt his attitude and willingness to prove he's top 3....at least Chisora is willing to take on all comers: Fury, Helenius, Vitali...and it didn't take years and years for those fights to happen. Sure Chisora boiled condensed his twattish behavior to fit within a few weeks build up, but the point is he was willing to prove himself in the ring.

The problem I (and most others have) with David Haye is that he thinks he can debate himself into being thought of more highly in the sport. He tries to talk his way to high status rather than fight his way there....to make it simple for you David Haye is less Frank Bruno and more Jeremy Kyle

[erics44]

Maybe you could argue this if you were saying 1 is closer to 2 than 3 on a number scale but if you are putting it on a scale of ability and having miles between each rank then its not true at all in the slightest little bit, fact is, he very well could be 3rd in the world and if you are honest with yourself you would admit it, there arent really any heavies other than the klits that you would be confident had the beating of david haye, maybe a couple of close fights and in reality you could only really say david price out of the english heavies has any real chance of beating him (and that is slim) so from that respect together with the miles scale analogy it is a fact that he is much closer to being third in the world than third in england when you analise it on any scale that counts, also i really enjoyed writing this in one big block

I don't discount Haye's "ability" I doubt his attitude and willingness to prove he's top 3....at least Chisora is willing to take on all comers: Fury, Helenius, Vitali...and it didn't take years and years for those fights to happen. Sure Chisora boiled condensed his twattish behavior to fit within a few weeks build up, but the point is he was willing to prove himself in the ring.

The problem I (and most others have) with David Haye is that he thinks he can debate himself into being thought of more highly in the sport. He tries to talk his way to high status rather than fight his way there....to make it simple for you David Haye is less Frank Bruno and more Jeremy Kyle

neither fury or helenius would have taken on haye at the time they took on chisora, in fact neither would take on haye now

helenius wouldnt have taken on chisora had he seen the viatli chisora fight first

chisora was paid 100k for the vitali fight so it was an easy fight to make for the klits

haye didnt want to fight for that much when his opponent was getting multiple times more and he was bringing in at least his schare of interest

so unfortunately your first paragraph is full of holes, your second is a bit daft too, david hayes mouth has fast tracked him to the position he is in there is absolutely no doubt about that, and that is mainly built on hate from people like you, the thing the haters struggle to admit is that in the current heavyweight climate he has the ability to back most of it up