After the Klıtschkos...(ıf you thınk ıts borıng NOW!)

[Fenster]

You could add up Wlad's last 8-10 fights and probably not match what he made against Haye.

The amount of money you make in boxing is based on what you can sell. Those Klitschko opponents bring nothing so make "nothing." It's simple as that really.

[erics44]

Why is it that the contenders that fight the Klitschko brothers make CAREER HIGH purses vs them? You're a damn nutjob.

yup in a 99%/1% split

OK so David Haye's highest ever payday to date was vs who then? Did you say Wladimir Klitschko Well if not, then you're wrong. You could add up what Haye made vs Valuev, Harrison, Barrett, and Ruiz and probably not match what he made fighting Wladimir.....slave contract...you're an idiot

he made a hefty wad against harrison too

and of course he will make more against the HW champ

and i reckon you could add the 4 names you mentioned and if it didnt surpass what he earned against wlad than it will have come pretty close

you could had wlads last 10 opponents appart from haye and it probably doesnt get anywhere near what he earned in any one of those fights

and perhaps it is all down to those opponents offering nothing, but that will continue as long as the klits are around

when they go there may well be a down period, but then we will come out the other side and perhaps then we will have a HW division again at some point

[El Kabong]

so let me get this straight...David Haye is the reason Wlad makes money Is that what you think Wlad makes bank regardless of who he fights, when you have as many people coming to the stadium as he has you're going to make money. The FACT is David Haye doesn't have a large fan base, he's never sold out anything. Wlad sells out stadiums, he sold them out before and after Haye. When over 50,000 people show up to see Wlad vs Eddie Chambers you can't say David Haye did jack shit. David Haye is a British fighter, he's NOT a world class heavyweight, never was, never will be.

[Fenster]

Eric is right about the purses for Haye.

Haye made a reported £5 million for the Audley fight alone. He was on £6/7 for every PPV sold against Valuev - it sold near 1 million.

Haye-Wlad split around £20 million. So Haye beat the money he made against Wlad against those two chumps.

Ticket sales don't mean shit compared to PPV. Floyd Mayweather isn't the highest paid athlete in the world due to ticket sales. He's the PPV daddy.

[BoxingGorilla]

Eric is right about the purses for Haye.

Haye made a reported £5 million for the Audley fight alone. He was on £6/7 for every PPV sold against Valuev - it sold near 1 million.

Haye-Wlad split around £20 million. So Haye beat the money he made against Wlad against those two chumps.

Ticket sales don't mean shit compared to PPV. Floyd Mayweather isn't the highest paid athlete in the world due to ticket sales. He's the PPV daddy.

I have my doubts simply because you didn't claim it was FACT!

[Fenster]

Eric is right about the purses for Haye.

Haye made a reported £5 million for the Audley fight alone. He was on £6/7 for every PPV sold against Valuev - it sold near 1 million.

Haye-Wlad split around £20 million. So Haye beat the money he made against Wlad against those two chumps.

Ticket sales don't mean shit compared to PPV. Floyd Mayweather isn't the highest paid athlete in the world due to ticket sales. He's the PPV daddy.

I have my doubts simply because you didn't claim it was FACT!

When I don't say fact i'm deadly serious.

[Fenster]

@Lyle

Wlad made a reported $5 million against Chambers ($1m).

Wlad made a reported $21 million against Haye ($21m)

[erics44]

so let me get this straight...David Haye is the reason Wlad makes money Is that what you think Wlad makes bank regardless of who he fights, when you have as many people coming to the stadium as he has you're going to make money. The FACT is David Haye doesn't have a large fan base, he's never sold out anything. Wlad sells out stadiums, he sold them out before and after Haye. When over 50,000 people show up to see Wlad vs Eddie Chambers you can't say David Haye did jack shit. David Haye is a British fighter, he's NOT a world class heavyweight, never was, never will be.

nope the thread is - (if you think its boring now bla bla bla) and my point is that the point of the thread is based on a missjudgement, the reason the HW divison has spiralled deaper into shitness over the last 5 years is because 2 fighters completely control the scene and they are boring inside and outside the ring

once they retire things can only get a little bit more interesting and you never know it might become exciting again one day

and david haye is far from the saviour of the hws, he'll probably retire again after saturday

[Master]

The Klits are making money maybe not as much as if they were on PPV but they have made a business decision that they will be on free German TV which is watched by millions. They also sell out arenas and fight in places where they will not be taxed so heavily. The Klits control the promotion and therefore keep more of the money.

Also it is more than just the money, they are quality fighters and are articulate. No way can you hate them for being consistent champions and staying on top of the game.

[brocktonblockbust]

The Klits are making money maybe not as much as if they were on PPV but they have made a business decision that they will be on free German TV which is watched by millions. They also sell out arenas and fight in places where they will not be taxed so heavily. The Klits control the promotion and therefore keep more of the money.

Also it is more than just the money, they are quality fighters and are articulate. No way can you hate them for being consistent champions and staying on top of the game.

AGREED. I dont hate them at all. They are certaınly skıllfull. They just couldnt hold a candle to Alı or Holmes or Bowe or Lennox Lewıs ın hıs prıme.

[erics44]

The Klits are making money maybe not as much as if they were on PPV but they have made a business decision that they will be on free German TV which is watched by millions. They also sell out arenas and fight in places where they will not be taxed so heavily. The Klits control the promotion and therefore keep more of the money.

Also it is more than just the money, they are quality fighters and are articulate. No way can you hate them for being consistent champions and staying on top of the game.

AGREED. I dont hate them at all. They are certaınly skıllfull. They just couldnt hold a candle to Alı or Holmes or Bowe or Lennox Lewıs ın hıs prıme.

yes super skillful, could probly hang with any of the best hws in history at their best

boring tho, inside and outside the ring

boring voices, never do anything or say anything interesting or exciting, jab jab hold jab jab hold, take no risks in the ring even when their opponents are ready to go

just boring champions, brilliant but boring

[El Kabong]

Riddick Bowe was crap and Wlad would have just toyed with him, it wouldn't have been close. I would rate Shannon Briggs as a better title holder than Bowe. Bowe is remembered for 1 reason....EVANDER HOLYFIELD.

[brocktonblockbust]

frazıer ıs only remembered for 1 reason too---ALI. BUT WHAT A BIG REASON THAT IS!!!!
Bowe beıng remembered "only for Holyfıeld" ıs hardly a dıscredıt---consıderıng Evander was probably 1 of the best ever esp at that tıme ın hıs career. Bowe whıpped hım 2 of 3. Not too shabby.
True that Bowe had a very short career tho .... rather dısappoıntıng. Wıshed he could have hung ın there to fıght guys lıke Lewıs and Grant and Tua and even Tyson. I thınk he would outwork the Klıts though.

[El Kabong]

Riddick Bowe was shit, he never fought a power puncher. There's a big reason he ducked Lennox Lewis, it's because in the amateurs Lewis cleaned his clock. The fights vs Holyfield were great and all, but it was only due to the fact that Holyfield was more of a quantity puncher than a power puncher. Had Bowe fought any of the power punchers of his era he would have been stopped, just my view, but there were rumblings that Tommy Morrison whipped Bowe's ass in sparring. I reckon Old George Foreman would have beaten Bowe by KO easily as well. Although there's no shame in being Ko'd by George Foreman.

[rjj tszyu]

What do we have to look forward to? Arreola? A Haye comeback? Chısora? A Peter comeback? What about a Lennox comeback? Worse yet, a Holyfıeld comeback. Whatever happened to Tyson-Holyfıeld III? They both need the money anyway. Does anybody really want to see those Russıans anymore or that Polısh guy? I guess we'll have to put all our hopes ın Tyson Fry and that Scandınavıan guy whats hıs name.......Ingemaar Johanssen ıs ıt?

Holyfield? Comeback? Where has he been? I don't think he ever retired.

Actually a few weeks ago I got my Evander DVD's out and was watching one of his fights, I think it was Bowe but I can't be sure, definitely that era. Anyway, the commentators were talking about where he goes after the fight and they were saying that it could be time to call it a day. 20 years later and he's still going.................. sort of. Just made me chuckle!