Wlad to fight again in Novermber or December

[Memphis]

I dont care if people care if I care or not Just saying, I dont care who Wlad fights and I had no idea he was fighting, no need to get menstrual about it, I dont care!

You're not still offering yourself up as some sort of prophet are you?

[El Kabong]

I dont care if people care if I care or not Just saying, I dont care who Wlad fights and I had no idea he was fighting, no need to get menstrual about it, I dont care!

You're not still offering yourself up as some sort of prophet are you?

So you decide to post about how you don't know/care about it? I'm sorry, just trying to put together why you would take time out of your busy day to do such a thing. I might say to myself "Hmm I didn't know ____ was fighting or had fought recently, odd" but I wouldn't take the time to mention it in a post about that fighter probably because I don't care and not posting would be a sign of how much a don't care.

Prophet? No, I'm no prophet, I just call it like I see it and although I called David Haye out 4 years ago for just being a shit talking wanker there was nothing prophetic about it, that's just what the guy is.....now I took it a step further and asked that he be taken to task about all the shit he talked, but apparently that won't happen, perhaps because the Brits feel a little sore over the subject.

[Memphis]

Same Old bullshit

Most Brits this, Brits dont like it that. Seriously man its getting old.

[Fenster]

Without Haye's shit-talk Wlad would've never made his huge career high payday.

The worst thing possible for the Klits was the Haye-Chisora press conference fight. Haye-Vitali, Chisora-Wlad were by far their highest profile bouts.

Now Wlad will be praying Chisora beats Haye.

[El Kabong]

Without Haye's shit-talk Wlad would've never made his huge career high payday.

The worst thing possible for the Klits was the Haye-Chisora press conference fight. Haye-Vitali, Chisora-Wlad were by far their highest profile bouts.

Now Wlad will be praying Chisora beats Haye.

So you're agreeing with me that Haye didn't deserve the hype by saying "Haye's shit talk" made the fight big. Quick question, did Holyfield shit talk Tyson? Was the fight still big?....just saying.

Why would Wlad hope Chisora beats Haye? It doesn't matter to Wlad he'd easily beat them both no matter who he chose to fight IF he actually chose to fight either of them. Haye certainly has done nothing to warrant another shot, Chisora hasn't done much either other than act like he belongs in a damn zoo.

Memphis, you know what gets old? People hating on The Klitschko's, that gets old. But you go right ahead and watch the Chav and the retard fight (what title is on the line again?) and make them millionaires for being fucking wankers.

[Memphis]

Memphis, you know what gets old? People hating on The Klitschko's, that gets old. But you go right ahead and watch the Chav and the retard fight (what title is on the line again?) and make them millionaires for being fucking wankers.

I dont hate on the Klits? I was just saying Im not overly interested in who Wlad beats up next. No disrespect to the guy but it will be as dull as dishwater. As an event Haye Chisora beats Wlad V .......

[rjj tszyu]

Without Haye's shit-talk Wlad would've never made his huge career high payday.

The worst thing possible for the Klits was the Haye-Chisora press conference fight. Haye-Vitali, Chisora-Wlad were by far their highest profile bouts.

Now Wlad will be praying Chisora beats Haye.

So you're agreeing with me that Haye didn't deserve the hype by saying "Haye's shit talk" made the fight big. Quick question, did Holyfield shit talk Tyson? Was the fight still big?....just saying.

Why would Wlad hope Chisora beats Haye? It doesn't matter to Wlad he'd easily beat them both no matter who he chose to fight IF he actually chose to fight either of them. Haye certainly has done nothing to warrant another shot, Chisora hasn't done much either other than act like he belongs in a damn zoo.

Memphis, you know what gets old? People hating on The Klitschko's, that gets old. But you go right ahead and watch the Chav and the retard fight (what title is on the line again?) and make them millionaires for being fucking wankers.

Can I ask one question Lyle my old mate? I'm not disagreeiing with anything you're saying BUT, do you think Haye will lose to Chisora? I genuinely want to know!

As a fellow fan of the HW's, I do value your opinion on this matter. I'm expecting an early KO from Haye with him moving, making Chisora miss clumsily and then making him pay. If not very early (1st or 2nd) then latest 8th or 9th!

I know you hate Haye and I 100% understand why but I also hope you can look past that and give an honest opinion on the matter.

[El Kabong]

Can I ask one question Lyle my old mate? I'm not disagreeiing with anything you're saying BUT, do you think Haye will lose to Chisora? I genuinely want to know!

As a fellow fan of the HW's, I do value your opinion on this matter. I'm expecting an early KO from Haye with him moving, making Chisora miss clumsily and then making him pay. If not very early (1st or 2nd) then latest 8th or 9th!

I know you hate Haye and I 100% understand why but I also hope you can look past that and give an honest opinion on the matter.

Certainly, I will be glad to answer this question in detail. In my UNBIASED opinion Haye has the athletic ability and 1 punch power to make life difficult for anyone. Dereck Chisora is a hard nut to crack (pun intended). Chisora seems to have mental issues, whether he's autistic as his trainer says, or mildly retarded, or bipolar or whatever the case is Chisora is just a little "off". All that being said I think based on recent fights and IF Chisora shows up in shape, then Chisora is liable to win a decision due to his effort and higher output of punches as David Haye fights a negative fight throwing under 20 punches a round. I figure if Helenius & Vitali can't hurt Chisora then David Haye will have a hard time as well. Haye does has a different kind of power, a quicker, less heavy kind of power that would be more along the lines of a Ferrari than a Mack Truck (to use a Teddy Atlas analogy) and maybe Chisora doesn't take that as good as the more deliberate shots. If David Haye is to win and look good doing it he needs to pump the jab, make Chisora work his way in, make Chisora pay for real estate, circle out and repeat. Haye will need to tire Chisora out and lure him in to a check hook or an uppercut (or both) in order to hurt and perhaps stop Dereck. To win the fight Chisora just needs to get into Haye's chest, make Haye run, do work to the body to slow him down, and muscle up on him to make things uncomfortable in there because David Haye will look for a way out when put under constant pressure.

I see this going the distance and Haye getting a very close controversial decision, perhaps having survived a knockdown or two.


I wonder if there are any longshots to challenge Wlad, Liakhovich, Maskaev, Valuev, Golota, Ruiz? Anyone Willing and able to come out of retirement to fight him and allow the youngsters to get prepared.

[Master]

At this rate it will be Haye v Wlad 2 because no one is ready.

[rjj tszyu]

Can I ask one question Lyle my old mate? I'm not disagreeiing with anything you're saying BUT, do you think Haye will lose to Chisora? I genuinely want to know!

As a fellow fan of the HW's, I do value your opinion on this matter. I'm expecting an early KO from Haye with him moving, making Chisora miss clumsily and then making him pay. If not very early (1st or 2nd) then latest 8th or 9th!

I know you hate Haye and I 100% understand why but I also hope you can look past that and give an honest opinion on the matter.

Certainly, I will be glad to answer this question in detail. In my UNBIASED opinion Haye has the athletic ability and 1 punch power to make life difficult for anyone. Dereck Chisora is a hard nut to crack (pun intended). Chisora seems to have mental issues, whether he's autistic as his trainer says, or mildly retarded, or bipolar or whatever the case is Chisora is just a little "off". All that being said I think based on recent fights and IF Chisora shows up in shape, then Chisora is liable to win a decision due to his effort and higher output of punches as David Haye fights a negative fight throwing under 20 punches a round. I figure if Helenius & Vitali can't hurt Chisora then David Haye will have a hard time as well. Haye does has a different kind of power, a quicker, less heavy kind of power that would be more along the lines of a Ferrari than a Mack Truck (to use a Teddy Atlas analogy) and maybe Chisora doesn't take that as good as the more deliberate shots. If David Haye is to win and look good doing it he needs to pump the jab, make Chisora work his way in, make Chisora pay for real estate, circle out and repeat. Haye will need to tire Chisora out and lure him in to a check hook or an uppercut (or both) in order to hurt and perhaps stop Dereck. To win the fight Chisora just needs to get into Haye's chest, make Haye run, do work to the body to slow him down, and muscle up on him to make things uncomfortable in there because David Haye will look for a way out when put under constant pressure.

I see this going the distance and Haye getting a very close controversial decision, perhaps having survived a knockdown or two.


I wonder if there are any longshots to challenge Wlad, Liakhovich, Maskaev, Valuev, Golota, Ruiz? Anyone Willing and able to come out of retirement to fight him and allow the youngsters to get prepared.

I do think people are reading too much into the Vitali fight. He was clearly injured and had he not been I think Chisora would have been stopped in the middle rounds. Add to that the fact he is 40 and to be fair has never been the most mobile and Chisora is made to look better than he actually is. As for Helenius, I never really rated the guy anyway to be honest though I did expect him to beat Chisora (by that I mean without the controversy). Also Haye has at the very least quite badly hurt every guy he has ever fought barring Wlad and I don't see much changing this weekend, Chisora IMO will fold when he does get hurt.

As for the guys you mention I've always been intrigued by a Wlad vs Valuev fight. I don't for a second think Wlad loses to Valuev (for me it has to be an explosive puncher to beat Wlad or someone with an insane workrate and chin like Evander was), but it's a new set of problems for Wlad to deal with and I think it could make for a semi decent fight as I'm not sure Wlad would be as keen to hold Valuev as he is the smaller guys! Also I'd love to see the big man down properly, I thought Haye was about to put him down in the last round but he just failed. I'm sure someone who isn't particuarly hard to hit like Valuev would be down at some point against Wlad. Also it would be marketable due to his size!

[Fenster]

Without Haye's shit-talk Wlad would've never made his huge career high payday.

The worst thing possible for the Klits was the Haye-Chisora press conference fight. Haye-Vitali, Chisora-Wlad were by far their highest profile bouts.

Now Wlad will be praying Chisora beats Haye.

So you're agreeing with me that Haye didn't deserve the hype by saying "Haye's shit talk" made the fight big. Quick question, did Holyfield shit talk Tyson? Was the fight still big?....just saying.

Why would Wlad hope Chisora beats Haye? It doesn't matter to Wlad he'd easily beat them both no matter who he chose to fight IF he actually chose to fight either of them. Haye certainly has done nothing to warrant another shot, Chisora hasn't done much either other than act like he belongs in a damn zoo.

Memphis, you know what gets old? People hating on The Klitschko's, that gets old. But you go right ahead and watch the Chav and the retard fight (what title is on the line again?) and make them millionaires for being fucking wankers.

1. I'm saying Haye's "shit-talk" produced Wlad his most lucrative and high profile ever contest. Do you think Wlad was NOT happy about making $21 million due to his opponents brilliant promotion?

2. Tyson was a money making global phenomenon. Every corner of the world purchased a piece of him. Wlad is a nobody outside Germany/Eastern Europe so is helped by controversial characters.

3. Wlad hopes Chisora beats Haye because the fight is already sold to the public with Chisora's antics and performance against Vitali.

You need to get this into perspective - Wlad-Haye got 16.5 million viewers on German TV. Wlad-Thompson got 6 million. If you think Wlad is unhappy about these "badboy" characters boosting the interest in his fights you are mad.

[El Kabong]

1. I'm saying Haye's "shit-talk" produced Wlad his most lucrative and high profile ever contest. Do you think Wlad was NOT happy about making $21 million due to his opponents brilliant promotion?

2. Tyson was a money making global phenomenon. Every corner of the world purchased a piece of him. Wlad is a nobody outside Germany/Eastern Europe so is helped by controversial characters.

3. Wlad hopes Chisora beats Haye because the fight is already sold to the public with Chisora's antics and performance against Vitali.

You need to get this into perspective - Wlad-Haye got 16.5 million viewers on German TV. Wlad-Thompson got 6 million. If you think Wlad is unhappy about these "badboy" characters boosting the interest in his fights you are mad.

Haye still didn't make the fight vs Wlad interesting or competitive, Tyson-Holyfield was big because Holyfield was a legit threat to Tyson, and I'm sure Wlad doesn't care who wins because all it means is another paycheck it's not like Haye or Chisora have a chance against Wlad.

There could have been 80 million viewers, the fact is David Haye is still a punk and nothing will change that. He talked and talked and didn't deliver or even attempt to make good on his word.

[Fenster]

1. I'm saying Haye's "shit-talk" produced Wlad his most lucrative and high profile ever contest. Do you think Wlad was NOT happy about making $21 million due to his opponents brilliant promotion?

2. Tyson was a money making global phenomenon. Every corner of the world purchased a piece of him. Wlad is a nobody outside Germany/Eastern Europe so is helped by controversial characters.

3. Wlad hopes Chisora beats Haye because the fight is already sold to the public with Chisora's antics and performance against Vitali.

You need to get this into perspective - Wlad-Haye got 16.5 million viewers on German TV. Wlad-Thompson got 6 million. If you think Wlad is unhappy about these "badboy" characters boosting the interest in his fights you are mad.

Haye still didn't make the fight vs Wlad interesting or competitive, Tyson-Holyfield was big because Holyfield was a legit threat to Tyson, and I'm sure Wlad doesn't care who wins because all it means is another paycheck it's not like Haye or Chisora have a chance against Wlad.

There could have been 80 million viewers, the fact is David Haye is still a punk and nothing will change that. He talked and talked and didn't deliver or even attempt to make good on his word.

Whether Haye is a punk or not is irrelevant.

If you believe a man as intelligent as Wlad doesn't "care" whether he earns $1million or $20million well... ().

Holyfield was a 25/1 underdog against Tyson (he didn't have a chance in hell according to popular opinion). Many figures in the boxing industry were fearing for his life. It was big because it involved two great fighters, two American's in America and Tyson is one of the most famous people in history.