Wlad to fight again in Novermber or December

[Memphis]

So by your rational if Haye wins Wlad won't make big money? And if Chisora wins he will? At this point in time there's no difference in Haye & Chisora. Dereck spit in Wlad's face I guess that is a teeny tiny little storyline, but shit man this is BOXING not the WWE and I'm telling you this whole idea (that 2 fighters from a certain little island have adopted) of "Look at what an asshole I can be" doesn't do well. Sure you can stir up people who will want to see you knocked out, but the regular boxing fans don't pay much attention to shit talking......especially when it wasn't backed up to begin with!!!

Mate your working on the assumption that Haye, Chisora, Wlad etc etc are out to please us hard working loyal boxing fans who spend their days and nights on the forums having verbals on their behalf. They aint!

[El Kabong]

So by your rational if Haye wins Wlad won't make big money? And if Chisora wins he will? At this point in time there's no difference in Haye & Chisora. Dereck spit in Wlad's face I guess that is a teeny tiny little storyline, but shit man this is BOXING not the WWE and I'm telling you this whole idea (that 2 fighters from a certain little island have adopted) of "Look at what an asshole I can be" doesn't do well. Sure you can stir up people who will want to see you knocked out, but the regular boxing fans don't pay much attention to shit talking......especially when it wasn't backed up to begin with!!!

Mate your working on the assumption that Haye, Chisora, Wlad etc etc are out to please us hard working loyal boxing fans who spend their days and nights on the forums having verbals on their behalf. They aint!

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And no, I'm not these guys are in the BUSINESS of boxing, I know that, but you can sell fights without talking shit, it has been done before.

[Memphis]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

[El Kabong]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

[Memphis]

How about you just answer the question?

[rjj tszyu]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

A little harsh Lyle. Haye has sold well over here and hasn't always delivered that is a fact BUT, he has also made history for us as well becoming only the second man to hold genuine world titles at both CW and HW and believe it or not a hell of a lot of Brits actually want to see Haye beaten.

Haye understands this which is why he comes across as a big mouthed bastard. He was never like this before he got famous. At the end of the day boxing is a short career choice so I fully understand him making himself a real love him or hate him guy as they are the ones that people will pay to see. The haters pay to see him lose and his fans (ME) pay to see him destroy bums like Chisora in great fashion.

[El Kabong]

Woah, woah, woah "He doesn't always deliver"?!?! Haye has NEVER delivered at heavyweight!!! He said he'd clean out the division. Well right now he'd be damn lucky to be considered top 10. He said he would decapitate Wlad & Vitali....we're still waiting. Haye has promised to bring excitement to the heavyweight division and he's one of the least exciting fighters there has ever been....14 punches a round vs Valuev....14!!!! I can do that without training at all and Haye is a professional athlete. I get that he has athletic ability & skill, but you guys buy the shit talking you don't buy based on the history of the fighter. People hate on me a lot for being a Klitschko fan, but I like the technical ability, the domination, and the dedication to the sweet science that I see from those guys. What does Haye bring INSIDE the ring when he doesn't have a microphone in his face? I just don't see it.

I think it's great that you guys support your countrymen so much, it's awesome....but I see David Haye as unworthy of having such a fanbase, he hasn't earned it.

[Fenster]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

Why did HBO drop Wlad? Haye was the ONLY opponent they were willing to show. They even filmed a "face-off" with Max Kellerman and shit.

HBO (America) had to BUY the fight. Do you think Wlad was unhappy that Haye brought that American MONEY to the table?

No fights sell better than a hero-villain situation/grudge fights. It's extremely gullible to believe Wlad is not happy about these outlandish characters bringing attention to his fights and increasing his payday.

[El Kabong]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

Why did HBO drop Wlad? Haye was the ONLY opponent they were willing to show. They even filmed a "face-off" with Max Kellerman and shit.

HBO (America) had to BUY the fight. Do you think Wlad was unhappy that Haye brought that American MONEY to the table?

No fights sell better than a hero-villain situation/grudge fights. It's extremely gullible to believe Wlad is not happy about these outlandish characters bringing attention to his fights and increasing his payday.

Because he fights in Europe and the time of those fights conflicts with HBO being a station that shows MOVIES. The ratings for Wlad & Vitali fights have been relatively good all things considered. Wlad vs Sam Peter I was a huge fight, Vitali vs Lewis, Vitali vs Sanders, Wlad vs Brewster I & II, Wlad vs Byrd II, Vitali vs Danny Williams....the guys have been good for numbers on HBO, but the time conflict is a big issue. How many fighters that fight in Europe that don't delay their matches are on HBO? 0....there's your answer.

Haye has been on HBO how many times without Wladimir? Is HBO showing Haye-Chisora?

Wlad says they disgrace boxing with their antics, I take him at his word. Plus Wlad has seen that those idiots would rather pull some stupid shit outside the ring than actually attempt to win the title inside the ring. David Haye showed more fight vs Chisora at the post fight press conference than he did in 12 rounds vs Wladimir.....FACT

Mark my words "When Wladimir fights in the United States again HBO will pick up the fight"

[rjj tszyu]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

Why did HBO drop Wlad? Haye was the ONLY opponent they were willing to show. They even filmed a "face-off" with Max Kellerman and shit.

HBO (America) had to BUY the fight. Do you think Wlad was unhappy that Haye brought that American MONEY to the table?

No fights sell better than a hero-villain situation/grudge fights. It's extremely gullible to believe Wlad is not happy about these outlandish characters bringing attention to his fights and increasing his payday.

Because he fights in Europe and the time of those fights conflicts with HBO being a station that shows MOVIES. The ratings for Wlad & Vitali fights have been relatively good all things considered. Wlad vs Sam Peter I was a huge fight, Vitali vs Lewis, Vitali vs Sanders, Wlad vs Brewster I & II, Wlad vs Byrd II, Vitali vs Danny Williams....the guys have been good for numbers on HBO, but the time conflict is a big issue. How many fighters that fight in Europe that don't delay their matches are on HBO? 0....there's your answer.

Haye has been on HBO how many times without Wladimir? Is HBO showing Haye-Chisora?

Wlad says they disgrace boxing with their antics, I take him at his word. Plus Wlad has seen that those idiots would rather pull some stupid shit outside the ring than actually attempt to win the title inside the ring. David Haye showed more fight vs Chisora at the post fight press conference than he did in 12 rounds vs Wladimir.....FACT

Mark my words "When Wladimir fights in the United States again HBO will pick up the fight"

To be fair I never noticed Wlad busting a gut to "Make David Haye KO number 50"

[Fenster]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

Why did HBO drop Wlad? Haye was the ONLY opponent they were willing to show. They even filmed a "face-off" with Max Kellerman and shit.

HBO (America) had to BUY the fight. Do you think Wlad was unhappy that Haye brought that American MONEY to the table?

No fights sell better than a hero-villain situation/grudge fights. It's extremely gullible to believe Wlad is not happy about these outlandish characters bringing attention to his fights and increasing his payday.

Because he fights in Europe and the time of those fights conflicts with HBO being a station that shows MOVIES. The ratings for Wlad & Vitali fights have been relatively good all things considered. Wlad vs Sam Peter I was a huge fight, Vitali vs Lewis, Vitali vs Sanders, Wlad vs Brewster I & II, Wlad vs Byrd II, Vitali vs Danny Williams....the guys have been good for numbers on HBO, but the time conflict is a big issue. How many fighters that fight in Europe that don't delay their matches are on HBO? 0....there's your answer.

Haye has been on HBO how many times without Wladimir? Is HBO showing Haye-Chisora?

Wlad says they disgrace boxing with their antics, I take him at his word. Plus Wlad has seen that those idiots would rather pull some stupid shit outside the ring than actually attempt to win the title inside the ring. David Haye showed more fight vs Chisora at the post fight press conference than he did in 12 rounds vs Wladimir.....FACT

Mark my words "When Wladimir fights in the United States again HBO will pick up the fight"

OK...

Wlad-Haye happened at european time. The fight time wasn't moved to accommodate HBO. They still showed it though. They still purachased it. HBO didn't want Wlad fights BEFORE or AFTER Haye.

So why did they buy the Haye fight?