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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?

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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    Haye should first fight a prime contender like Povetkin, Pulev or Solis and then go for a rematch with Wlad.

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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    He had his chance with Wlad. But if he beats a credible HW opponent, he could earn a shot at Vitali.

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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    Povetkin, Adamek, Arreola, Pulev, Mitchell, someone on that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.
    Adamek's wins over Arreola and Chambers are MUCH better than Audley Harrison. Really? Frankly, Arreola and Chambers stand equal to, or better than, any win on Haye's heavyweight record.

    However, with all the said, Vitali already starched Adamek, and Wladimir would hurt him badly. Like Haye, I have more interest in seeing new faces challenge the Klitschkos because Adamek and Arreola had their shot, and came up far short. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye, Adamek, and Arreola against the other top-ten fighters, like Povetkin, Pulev, Boystov, Mitchell, Jennings, each other, or Price even. It would be testament to them if they cleaned out the division, other than the Klitschkos, prior to getting another shot at the Klitschkos.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 07-15-2012 at 09:26 PM.

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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.
    Adamek's wins over Arreola and Chambers are MUCH better than Audley Harrison. Really? Frankly, Arreola and Chambers stand equal to, or better than, any win on Haye's heavyweight record.

    However, with all the said, Vitali already starched Adamek, and Wladimir would hurt him badly. Like Haye, I have more interest in seeing new faces challenge the Klitschkos because Adamek and Arreola had their shot, and came up far short. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye, Adamek, and Arreola against the other top-ten fighters, like Povetkin, Pulev, Boystov, Mitchell, Jennings, each other, or Price even. It would be testament to them if they cleaned out the division, other than the Klitschkos, prior to getting another shot at the Klitschkos.
    OK.. Arreola and Chambers are better than Audley, for sure.

    But Arreola's best win is against a man that lost to a Haye victim. He's never beat anyone better than Haye has.

    Adamek has recently been fighting Kevin McBride (who couldn't even win a British Prizefighter) Michael Grant and Vinny Maddalone.

    Considering they both lost to Vitali, I don't see how they're more deserving than Haye for a Klit fight. I would much rather see Haye fight Adamek or Arreola than Vitali anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

    Yes... and Haye was stopped by Wlad. What's your point?

    My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

    Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

    But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.

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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    What's next for Haye? Hopefully retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

    Yes... and Haye was stopped by Wlad. What's your point?

    My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

    Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

    But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.
    Please correct that before I continue reading? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

    Yes... and Haye was HUMILIATED by Wlad. What's your point?

    My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

    Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

    But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.
    Please correct that before I continue reading? Thanks.

    You're right. It's much more correct now...... thank you.

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    I'd probably move this thread too. It's about to get ugly.


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    Default Re: What's next for Haye

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?
    Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

    In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

    Yes... and Haye was stopped by Wlad. What's your point?

    My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

    Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

    But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.
    Since the Chisora fight, the Brit public which makes up 90% of his fanboy base, seem to be in love with Haye again. There's not much doubt that they'll be willing now to shell out big PPV quid for Haye vs. Vitali. I bet this fight gets made in the next month or so.

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    I'm sure Steve Bunce had to take a cold shower after watching the fight. David Haye is STILL a punk and he STILL has little hope of beating either Klitschko brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I'm sure Steve Bunce had to take a cold shower after watching the fight. David Haye is STILL a punk and he STILL has little hope of beating either Klitschko brother
    This is true, but try telling that to Haye's fanboys, hell hath no fury like a Brit fanboy scorned.

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