Where do you rate Wladimir Klitschko among all-time heavyweights?

[El Kabong]

Right Lyle - see fact below.

in his prime Frank Bruno would have knocked out Wlad.

I rest my case

Right....Wlad would have still been in diapers at that time though



If we're talking Prime vs Prime then I hate to tell you but Wlad whips Bruno's ass every day of the week and twice on Sunday

[Mark TKO]

Big Frank would have him by the 5th. Wlad would have been terrified of Frank's punching power.


In both their primes if I was forced, with a gun to my head, to put everything I had on one outcome then I would honestly have gone Frank by KO in round 5.

[El Kabong]

Big Frank would have him by the 5th. Wlad would have been terrified of Frank's punching power.


In both their primes if I was forced, with a gun to my head, to put everything I had on one outcome then I would honestly have gone Frank by KO in round 5.

....that because he did so well vs fighters with punching power?

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Always felt that Bruno was too robotic, bit like seeing one of those tennis players that got all the shots and are text book players but other guy knows where every shot is going as it is in the text book and hammers the return past them.

Think Bruno's management did well with him and he earnt a good living and a nice guy but thats it really. Forgetting fights like the Coetzee fight were just them putting names in with him that were long past their peak.

Every title fight he had he couldn't have picked a better time to fight any of the opponents frankly. Lewis was having one of his off nights like he did, Witherspoon was out of condition, McCall was in the middle of a breakdown, 1st Tyson fight, Tyson was out of condition and mentally gone and 2nd Tyson fight was after Tyson done his prison time. Also Douglas had pretty much given you a road map on how to beat Tyson a map that theoretically Bruno had the tools for.

Wlad to win as soon as he is warmed up.

[Mark TKO]

Wlad to win as soon as he is warmed up.

exactly - would be all the window Frank needed

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Wlad to win as soon as he is warmed up.

exactly - would be all the window Frank needed

Wlad is very skilled both mentally and physically in terms of controlling the pace of a fight. I think he would stop Bruno inside 10 rounds.

Frank was pretty dumb in all honesty. The mcall fight was one of the worst fights i have ever seen, bruno looked about as fluid as a chunk of rock.

[Mark TKO]

Don't be thinking I am saying Bruno was some kind of great fighter here by the way. Pretty fucking far from it.

But he could get to Wlad

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I have him at 9.
Have done since he really started cleaning up the division.

I don't rate boxers as boxers or fighters but as champions - because that's all you can do.

Wladimir has been a unified, dominant champ for what seems like forever.