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    Word is he failed to make weight on the first attempt for his fight this weekend, coming in at 133.5. That's actually a far way off from 130. He's probably better suited to 135, as it is. Note that Broner is missing Uchiyama, the man at 130, if he goes up to 135 now. Uchiyama is a puncher too. Now, I understand Uchiyama isn't well known so I see the business reasons for not facing him. I'm just pointing it out so to see if he makes a habit of missing guys on his way up the weight class ladder. Also, Gamboa is the man at 126, by moving up, is Broner moving away from a fight with Gamboa? There's a decent amount of quality guys at 135 for him to face. Let's see where he goes from here.

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    Broner not making 130 is not surprising. In all honesty I was beginning to wonder how he managed it. He looks like a full on welter at fight time and fought much earlier in his career as high as 140 and hung out in the 135 area.

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    Another pushed product interested more in being a loud mouth character than actually making weight and honoring a contract. We need less of this bullshit. Right now he's more "Big Brother" and less "World Championship boxing", pretty sure I watched him lose to Daniel Ponce de leon too. Other than that I'm sure he's a great guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Another pushed product interested more in being a loud mouth character than actually making weight and honoring a contract. We need less of this bullshit. Right now he's more "Big Brother" and less "World Championship boxing", pretty sure I watched him lose to Daniel Ponce de leon too. Other than that I'm sure he's a great guy.
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    does broner have talent? Yes

    has he shown much? No. he beat Litzau and Perez (who tested positive or nose candy after the fight).

    he didn't face any of the top 5 guys at the top of the division. Are they big names? No. Uchiyama is undefeated. he can fight. he beat salgado who is also highly ranked. Salgado-he can fight. He can punch a little. He is the guy that first stretched Linares in 1 round.

    Broner easily could have made a fight with someone better than Perez.

    Escobedo is a solid fighter and could possibly give Broner a fight tomorrow night. So what did broner do? came in at 133.5. if he was going to do anything like that they could have started negotiating things a few days ago.

    instead he let escobedo go through the sacrifice of getting all the way down to 130. while broner didn't do so. And escobedo has fought some at 135. I would guess the last few pounds to make 130 are far from easy.

    so broner knew he wasn't going to make weight and made sure his opponent sacrificed himself to make it. so he can come into the fight not weakened at all by making weight and escobedo will have.

    Great job. when you have talent you shouldn't try to gain advantages like that. amateurish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    does broner have talent? Yes

    has he shown much? No. he beat Litzau and Perez (who tested positive or nose candy after the fight).

    he didn't face any of the top 5 guys at the top of the division. Are they big names? No. Uchiyama is undefeated. he can fight. he beat salgado who is also highly ranked. Salgado-he can fight. He can punch a little. He is the guy that first stretched Linares in 1 round.

    Broner easily could have made a fight with someone better than Perez.

    Escobedo is a solid fighter and could possibly give Broner a fight tomorrow night. So what did broner do? came in at 133.5. if he was going to do anything like that they could have started negotiating things a few days ago.

    instead he let escobedo go through the sacrifice of getting all the way down to 130. while broner didn't do so. And escobedo has fought some at 135. I would guess the last few pounds to make 130 are far from easy.

    so broner knew he wasn't going to make weight and made sure his opponent sacrificed himself to make it. so he can come into the fight not weakened at all by making weight and escobedo will have.

    Great job. when you have talent you shouldn't try to gain advantages like that. amateurish.
    Broner is only 22 so he is still very much an immature, self centered, egotistical little asshole. Surprised a little bit he has so many children at such a young age.

    His "Free Money May" T-shirt, shit head attitude toward making weight and fake marriage proposal at the end of the fight didn't exactly endear him to the American audience.

    But, I figure he wants to go the villain route and piss white America off and what not.

    Worked wonders for Floyd in terms of $$$.

    Anyway Broner performed well and patiently picked Escobedo apart. Escobedo gave hints he didn't want to be there before the fight and was just there for a paycheck and his corner throwing the towel in so early seemed to confirm that.

    Thought Escobedo had an excellent jab and was getting some good body work in, but didn't seem to discourage Broner much.
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    Kirkland Laing here, steaming drunk at 9am. Too soon to say how good he really is and I don't see Golden Boy letting Gamboa anywhere near him. I think they'll keep protecting him for a long time yet. Hopefully he develops into a Mayweatheresque talent but there's a long, long way to go yet before he gets anywhere near that level. He's definitely an arsehole too but that's all good for boxing, whether people love him or hate him he'll create enough bullshit to get them watching and if his talent develops like his ego boxing is onto a winner.

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    He's even more unlikable than Floyd Mayweather is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    does broner have talent? Yes

    has he shown much? No. he beat Litzau and Perez (who tested positive or nose candy after the fight).

    he didn't face any of the top 5 guys at the top of the division. Are they big names? No. Uchiyama is undefeated. he can fight. he beat salgado who is also highly ranked. Salgado-he can fight. He can punch a little. He is the guy that first stretched Linares in 1 round.

    Broner easily could have made a fight with someone better than Perez.

    Escobedo is a solid fighter and could possibly give Broner a fight tomorrow night. So what did broner do? came in at 133.5. if he was going to do anything like that they could have started negotiating things a few days ago.

    instead he let escobedo go through the sacrifice of getting all the way down to 130. while broner didn't do so. And escobedo has fought some at 135. I would guess the last few pounds to make 130 are far from easy.

    so broner knew he wasn't going to make weight and made sure his opponent sacrificed himself to make it. so he can come into the fight not weakened at all by making weight and escobedo will have.

    Great job. when you have talent you shouldn't try to gain advantages like that. amateurish.
    Broner is only 22 so he is still very much an immature, self centered, egotistical little asshole. Surprised a little bit he has so many children at such a young age.

    His "Free Money May" T-shirt, shit head attitude toward making weight and fake marriage proposal at the end of the fight didn't exactly endear him to the American audience.

    But, I figure he wants to go the villain route and piss white America off and what not.

    Worked wonders for Floyd in terms of $$$.

    Anyway Broner performed well and patiently picked Escobedo apart. Escobedo gave hints he didn't want to be there before the fight and was just there for a paycheck and his corner throwing the towel in so early seemed to confirm that.

    Thought Escobedo had an excellent jab and was getting some good body work in, but didn't seem to discourage Broner much.
    There would have a been a significant difference in the outcome if Broner had come in at the contracted weight of 130 and fought Escobedo at that weight. Instead he fucking cheated and probably weighed close to welterweight (147) during last night's fight.

    In Re: "Free Money May", for what, abusing his ex-wife and children? Broner is an imbecile.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 07-23-2012 at 12:56 AM.

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    He is a talented fighter no question. But as others have mentioned, the competition he has faced has been a joke. HBO and company are clearly pushing for him to be the next big thing and they are padding his record accordingly. It's easy to make the comparisons to Floyd...he imitates his defensive style and brash personality. But Floyd was MUCH more polished at the same age...just a whole different pedigree IMO. And Floyd does the majority of his antics and crap talking to promote a fight. In the ring he is a professional. The whole "will you brush my hair" non sense was just plain corny and stupid. Lets see how this kid handles stiffer competition.

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    Like I said a long time ago boxing needs "Characters" to stay relevant. People will tune in to see Broner lose and when he wins it will piss them off.

    I'm pretty sure Broner "acting like Mayweather" is something HBO adores, as the real Mayweather is going to retire soon. So Broner is something they need ratings wise. Just as Timothy Bradley was "acting like Mayweather" in the leadup to the Pacquiao fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Word is he failed to make weight on the first attempt for his fight this weekend, coming in at 133.5. That's actually a far way off from 130. He's probably better suited to 135, as it is. Note that Broner is missing Uchiyama, the man at 130, if he goes up to 135 now. Uchiyama is a puncher too. Now, I understand Uchiyama isn't well known so I see the business reasons for not facing him. I'm just pointing it out so to see if he makes a habit of missing guys on his way up the weight class ladder. Also, Gamboa is the man at 126, by moving up, is Broner moving away from a fight with Gamboa? There's a decent amount of quality guys at 135 for him to face. Let's see where he goes from here.
    Gamboa has said that he is still moving to 135, regardless of the fight with Rios not having happened. So hopefully he and Broner meet there. I'm sorry we didn't get Donaire/Gamboa at a lower weight but Broner/Gamboa at a higher weight has the potential to be even better IMO.

    Pretty lame missing weight by that much though. I hate when guys do that. His quote, undoubtedly true, is that he's "clearly outgrown 130 lbs." The obvious response is, he should have moved up before this fight then.

    They are apparently in negotiations about a "cap" on how much weight he can put on overnight, Rios-style.
    Last edited by shza; 07-21-2012 at 02:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Word is he failed to make weight on the first attempt for his fight this weekend, coming in at 133.5. That's actually a far way off from 130. He's probably better suited to 135, as it is. Note that Broner is missing Uchiyama, the man at 130, if he goes up to 135 now. Uchiyama is a puncher too. Now, I understand Uchiyama isn't well known so I see the business reasons for not facing him. I'm just pointing it out so to see if he makes a habit of missing guys on his way up the weight class ladder. Also, Gamboa is the man at 126, by moving up, is Broner moving away from a fight with Gamboa? There's a decent amount of quality guys at 135 for him to face. Let's see where he goes from here.
    Gamboa has said that he is still moving to 135, regardless of the fight with Rios not having happened. So hopefully he and Broner meet there. I'm sorry we didn't get Donaire/Gamboa at a lower weight but Broner/Gamboa at a higher weight has the potential to be even better IMO.

    Pretty lame missing weight by that much though. I hate when guys do that. His quote, undoubtedly true, is that he's "clearly outgrown 130 lbs." The obvious response is, he should have moved up before this fight then.

    They are apparently in negotiations about a "cap" on how much weight he can put on overnight, Rios-style.
    broner hasn't proven shit as a pro. He didn't face a top 5 guy at 130.

    the best opponent he faced was de leon who had been fighting at 126. and he lost.

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    People make way to big a deal out of the fight with Ponce. What was Broner even doing at 126? Does he have some kind of obsession with Armstrong? I'm not trying to make excuses for Broner but he overlooked him as a man that could not box his way out of a door way.

    Arguello got ko'd by Amaya in his fourth fight. Life went on.

    We often shit on fighters for not making weight and in many cases such as Guzman for example its justified but not in this case. How can anyone be surprised that Broner failed a 130 weigh in other then those who only see the class he fights in?

    The majority of the boxing world considers these titles as meaningless trinkets. There has not been a true unified champ since Bernard Hopkins. Who cares if Broner is 133 for a 130 meaningless title fight? Go back to 8 divisions already.

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