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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    Oscar has never been dropped and that inclides fights with Mosely, Trinidad, Quartey. Hopkins was a body shot. Oscar has one of the best chins going. Even the shordrained version couldnt e dented byPacquiao.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    DLH wanna see Floyd lose by any means by anyone. Even to the point where he's just going to SAY IT to sike himself out. DLH has said since he lost to Floyd that whomever he fought was going to beat him. Now he saying he'll go with Floyd? DLH even been to other fighters camps and dressing rooms encouraging Floyd's opponents. Now Pacman, maybe the best since he whip Hoya, he's saying he have the edge?
    WOOOOW!!!! Don't believe him for a second!!!

    By the way, a prime Hoya would not have quit on the stool in his prime. And would have let his hands go. Hoya over Pacman.

    Floyd over Hoya all day everyday.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    Oscar has never been dropped and that inclides fights with Mosely, Trinidad, Quartey. Hopkins was a body shot. Oscar has one of the best chins going. Even the shordrained version couldnt e dented byPacquiao.
    He got dropped at least once early in his career.

    As far as the question goes I think prime Floyd beats prime Oscar. Prime Oscar against prime Manny I would have liked to see. Manny in his prime with his late career skills would have won I think.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    Oscar has never been dropped and that inclides fights with Mosely, Trinidad, Quartey. Hopkins was a body shot. Oscar has one of the best chins going. Even the shordrained version couldnt e dented byPacquiao.
    Quartey had him on his arse twice!

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthepen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    Oscar has never been dropped and that inclides fights with Mosely, Trinidad, Quartey. Hopkins was a body shot. Oscar has one of the best chins going. Even the shordrained version couldnt e dented byPacquiao.
    Quartey had him on his arse twice!
    This is me its a dunce!

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthepen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    Oscar has never been dropped and that inclides fights with Mosely, Trinidad, Quartey. Hopkins was a body shot. Oscar has one of the best chins going. Even the shordrained version couldnt e dented byPacquiao.
    Quartey had him on his arse twice!
    This is me its a dunce!
    You had a point though. Oscar was down a bit early in his career, and even Whitaker had him on the deck. I remember back in the mid nineties many boxing writers thought he was chinny.

    Difference was, all Oscar's knockdowns were flash knockdowns when he was off balance. I can't recall him ever being hurt or his legs wobbling.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Its probably when he thought or felt that he had no threat from his oponents power and fought stupid.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    WTF? Their fight was a split decision.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Floyd would have made Oscar look like an amateur at the very beginning 130lbs. Floyd overwhelmed everyone and Oscar wouldn't be able to handle Floyd's power at that weight or at 135 so my comparison ends there.
    WTF? Their fight was a split decision.
    The fact that it was scored a split was absolutely disgraceful. 9-3 was the correct way to score the fight.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    Including Freddy Roach, why do you think he was so selective over who he'd let pac actually fight at 147 and not a catchweight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    I should imagine someone has already pointed this out (havent read all the posts) but its so ridiculous I feel the need to comment now!

    Oscar was far from a legit 147lb fighter

    He hadnt foight at that weight for 7 years and had fought up at middle and even then Manny needed him to come in well below the limit, at 145lb! He was a totally weight drained fighter!

    I have no doubt that the fighter who fought Trinidad, Quartey and Mosely would be far too much for Pacquiao.

    I think Floyd always beats him. Dont forget, Floyd fought De La Hoya where he was comfortable, big and strong, up at light middle!

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    Dont forget, Floyd fought De La Hoya where he was comfortable, big and strong, up at light middle!
    Yep. And the card in favor of Oscar was preposterous. I scored that fight 9-3, easy. I believe Kellerman had the same score.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    I should imagine someone has already pointed this out (havent read all the posts) but its so ridiculous I feel the need to comment now!

    Oscar was far from a legit 147lb fighter

    He hadnt foight at that weight for 7 years and had fought up at middle and even then Manny needed him to come in well below the limit, at 145lb! He was a totally weight drained fighter!

    I have no doubt that the fighter who fought Trinidad, Quartey and Mosely would be far too much for Pacquiao.

    I think Floyd always beats him. Dont forget, Floyd fought De La Hoya where he was comfortable, big and strong, up at light middle!
    OK now your sound more like a hater. Pacquiao fought many legit 147lb fighters and proved he could handle the punch of bigger weight class. The question is hypothetical, not actual, so when attempting to make a point put some thought into it rather than a knee jerk reaction about your feelings.

    No doubt a prime Oscar could have put some hurt on Pacquiao. I think it comes down to, could a prime Oscar have caught Pacquiao? I don't know, but after seeing Pacquiao's subsequent fights, I doubt Oscar would have enough solid connects to take out Pacquiao or win on points. thus a prime Oscar beating Pacquiao is doubtful.

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