Larry Holmes---greatest of all-tıme?

[brocktonblockbust]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

[BIG H]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

That was the worst version of Holmes that ever entered the ring (apart from versus Butterbean) He was better in his forties than he was when he fought Tyson.

Prime for prime that's seriously hard to call!! If Holmes could get up from that Shavers punch and win the fight, I'm not sure how you get rid of him!!

[TitoFan]

If you ask Holmes, he'll say "yeah". But that he didn't get enough credit because he's black.

[Master]

Yes he might possibly be other than Ali, I think he could beat the other great heavyweights in history. He did not achieve the 25 defences that Joe Louis did and he did have some lucky decisions (Carl Williams) and knock downs (Snipes) but at his best he had the greatest chin and left jabs in history.

Holmes v Lewis and Wlad would be interesting as Holmes would have to work out a way past their jabs and their sheer size.

[IamInuit]

If you ask Holmes, he'll say "yeah". But that he didn't get enough credit because he's black.

History and some historians frown on him a bit because of the battle worn crew he entered into. Now that's not his fault unless one suspects that he planned it anymore then it was Marciano's fault or presently Wlads. People also factor in King and the Ali fight. I mean it looks more opportunistic then a sub adult male black bear recently kicked to the curb by its mother. I cant think of a lower move by a promoter.

I believe those two things effect opinion greatly.

[Master]

If you ask Holmes, he'll say "yeah". But that he didn't get enough credit because he's black.

History and some historians frown on him a bit because of the battle worn crew he entered into. Now that's not his fault unless one suspects that he planned it anymore then it was Marciano's fault or presently Wlads. People also factor in King and the Ali fight. I mean it looks more opportunistic then a sub adult male black bear recently kicked to the curb by its mother. I cant think of a lower move by a promoter.

I believe those two things effect opinion greatly.

I do not think it was Holmes beating Ali but more because he came straight after him. Holmes was quality and very under appreciated champ. Loved his victory over Mercer, that was emotional.

[Mr140]

I think Evander could do just as well against Holmes if he was prime just because he went the distance with him doesn't mean shit because Evander won very clearly. Evander Holyfeild was not a knock out artist and Holmes was almost 30 pounds heavier then Holyfeild was, like most fights Evander was fighting with a guy way heavier then him and taller as well. I don't rate Holyfeild above Holmes as a heavyweight even though Evanders top wins were better, but atg great and pound for pound i feel Holyfeild was a far greater fighter then Holmes was just saying.

[brocktonblockbust]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

ı never understood that fıght eıther--ı saw ıt lıve on PPV january 1988. I thought Holmes was startıng to gıve a boxıng lesson to Tyson by the 4th round---ıt looked lıke ıt could be an upset at that poınt---then BAM!!! Tyson's speed took over. ıt sucked to see larry go down lıke that.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

ı never understood that fıght eıther--ı saw ıt lıve on PPV january 1988. I thought Holmes was startıng to gıve a boxıng lesson to Tyson by the 4th round---ıt looked lıke ıt could be an upset at that poınt---then BAM!!! Tyson's speed took over. ıt sucked to see larry go down lıke that.

He took that fight on 4 weeks notice, was 40 yrs old and had been in retirement for 2 years following 2 losses to a LHW (one of those fights were debateable though!) a better prepared holmes frustrates tyson badly......

[Master]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

ı never understood that fıght eıther--ı saw ıt lıve on PPV january 1988. I thought Holmes was startıng to gıve a boxıng lesson to Tyson by the 4th round---ıt looked lıke ıt could be an upset at that poınt---then BAM!!! Tyson's speed took over. ıt sucked to see larry go down lıke that.

He took that fight on 4 weeks notice, was 40 yrs old and had been in retirement for 2 years following 2 losses to a LHW (one of those fights were debateable though!) a better prepared holmes frustrates tyson badly......

Maybe. It showed me how great his chin was because he took some blockbuster home runs and was still fighting back!

[TitoFan]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

ı never understood that fıght eıther--ı saw ıt lıve on PPV january 1988. I thought Holmes was startıng to gıve a boxıng lesson to Tyson by the 4th round---ıt looked lıke ıt could be an upset at that poınt---then BAM!!! Tyson's speed took over. ıt sucked to see larry go down lıke that.

He took that fight on 4 weeks notice, was 40 yrs old and had been in retirement for 2 years following 2 losses to a LHW (one of those fights were debateable though!) a better prepared holmes frustrates tyson badly......

Maybe. It showed me how great his chin was because he took some blockbuster home runs and was still fighting back!

I must admit to the guilty pleasure of jumping for joy when Tyson KTFO'ed Holmes.
While I grudgingly admit to Holmes greatness as a fighter.... I absolutely HATED Holmes the person.

[IamInuit]

larry was the real deal, not evander. larry would have bazookaed evander ın hıs prıme. look at larry at 42 years old go the dıstance wıth a prıme evander ın 1992 ı thınk. unbelıevaqble.

What do you make of Larry's 4th round stoppage defeat against Tyson?

I have always stuggled to firmly put that fight into context.

At present, im kinda thinking the mid-80's Tyson was just that good

ı never understood that fıght eıther--ı saw ıt lıve on PPV january 1988. I thought Holmes was startıng to gıve a boxıng lesson to Tyson by the 4th round---ıt looked lıke ıt could be an upset at that poınt---then BAM!!! Tyson's speed took over. ıt sucked to see larry go down lıke that.

He took that fight on 4 weeks notice, was 40 yrs old and had been in retirement for 2 years following 2 losses to a LHW (one of those fights were debateable though!) a better prepared holmes frustrates tyson badly......

Maybe. It showed me how great his chin was because he took some blockbuster home runs and was still fighting back!

I must admit to the guilty pleasure of jumping for joy when Tyson KTFO'ed Holmes.
While I grudgingly admit to Holmes greatness as a fighter.... I absolutely HATED Holmes the person.

I couldn't stand him either.