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    Default Re: Apart from Mayweather & PacMan boxing has no superstars

    Agreed

    The Klitschkos have mass appeal but are not global superstars.

    Apart from the 4 already mentioned, I reckon the average sports fan wouldn't even be able to name any of the other top ten p4p active fighters today
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    Default Re: Apart from Mayweather & PacMan boxing has no superstars

    the governing bodies, fighters and promoters should read this thread !
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    Default Re: Apart from Mayweather & PacMan boxing has no superstars

    I'm not sure how atypical this is, though (at least post-WWII).

    Who in the 90s was a true superstar? Tyson, Holyfield, De la Hoya, RJJ. Can't think of any others. I don't think Lennox Lewis was ever a recognizable name to non-boxing fans in the U.S.

    80s: Tyson, SRL, and to a lesser extent Hagler, Hearns, JCC (and he's borderline outside of Latin America).

    I may be missing a couple but I don't think there have ever been more than maybe a handful at a time during my lifetime.

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    Default Re: Apart from Mayweather & PacMan boxing has no superstars

    Boxing cycles through its stars with crossover appeal. Honestly we as fans can blame ourselves at times. Those two specifically have caused us tunnel vision clamoring far too long for them to shut up and fight already. Then what do ya know, Mayweather gets a decent scrap from Cotto and makes news for all of the wrong reasons outside of the ring...and Manny arguably losses to JMM and then gets back handed by judges with Bradley.

    I don't know. I've always thought of the match ups and actual fights the stars. What we call superstars or elite and what others "know"...casual fans...can be that way for a reason. Shit I still have a couple of friends ask about Jones Jr. You tell them yeh...he's top ranked and won his last fight and get "thats cause he's a bad ass" then ya tell them no...no...he's shot to hell then get a deer in a headlights look back..."hows that possible though"? Its frustrating.

    One thing is certain and thats you cannot 'force' stardom. Its not manufactured and I think networks may be leaning toward that idea. Its natural...its promotion but man its so transparent at times. I put Gamboa, Rios, Berto, Canelo, a Broner among others who are or were taking some shortcuts and the powers that be giving them a wink & nod. I think Donaire considers himself a superstar but even he is almost short changing himself and just getting caught up in force feeding fans just how 'great' he is. Don't tell us...show up in top form and display it consistently. All this nonsense talk of 3,4,5 divisions or belts. Sergio Martinez is close with crossover and ability and if he trumps Chavez part deaux it would go along way.

    I don't care how big a name you are or how big you think you deserve to be, just give me good fights. I'll take two journeymen in an 6 round war over some spoiled diva whipping a part time line cook for some trinket anyday of the week. Alot of the time you really don't know where or who will produce them until we're asking where'd this dude come from? Alright, coffee induced ramble fini

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    I'm not sure how atypical this is, though (at least post-WWII).

    Who in the 90s was a true superstar? Tyson, Holyfield, De la Hoya, RJJ. Can't think of any others. I don't think Lennox Lewis was ever a recognizable name to non-boxing fans in the U.S.

    80s: Tyson, SRL, and to a lesser extent Hagler, Hearns, JCC (and he's borderline outside of Latin America).

    I may be missing a couple but I don't think there have ever been more than maybe a handful at a time during my lifetime.
    You know, this is a great point. This is a truth.
    The way it's going, though; boxing has less and less superstars as years go by. No doubt other will come after Manny and Floyd, but they're getting fewer and far between. Other sports are grabbing them with less chance of brain trauma and depression. It's a fact.

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    Default Re: Apart from Mayweather & PacMan boxing has no superstars

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    I'm not sure how atypical this is, though (at least post-WWII).

    Who in the 90s was a true superstar? Tyson, Holyfield, De la Hoya, RJJ. Can't think of any others. I don't think Lennox Lewis was ever a recognizable name to non-boxing fans in the U.S.
    In the U.K, nobody knew who De La Hoya or Roy Jones were unless you were a boxing fan. Superstars with true global appeal are always few and far between.

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    Default Re: Apart from Mayweather & PacMan boxing has no superstars

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    I'm not sure how atypical this is, though (at least post-WWII).

    Who in the 90s was a true superstar? Tyson, Holyfield, De la Hoya, RJJ. Can't think of any others. I don't think Lennox Lewis was ever a recognizable name to non-boxing fans in the U.S.
    In the U.K, nobody knew who De La Hoya or Roy Jones were unless you were a boxing fan. Superstars with true global appeal are always few and far between.
    Really? I find that hard to believe w/r/t De la Hoya. He was a much bigger name than Mayweather or PAC currently are. Still is, actually.

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