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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    Seth Mitchell, Eddie Chambers, Chris Arreola all accomplished far more than Wilder had, so far.

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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by GaydarbekStraight View Post
    Seth Mitchell, Eddie Chambers, Chris Arreola all accomplished far more than Wilder had, so far.
    Evander has accomplished more than them all put together but I don't think he's better than them anymore. Then again...........

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    Wilder looked explosive and confident as hell in there against Manswell. But, I had never even heard of Manswell before, none the less his credentials and record indicated he was a decent opponent.

    The confidence Wilder showed is very unique in today's heavyweight picture. I like what Lyle is saying with putting him in there with someone like Dominick Guinn next.

    May I also suggest Michael Grant as I think that could be a really fun fight for Wilder.
    Wilder will no doubt have to step up and hopefully it's before he falls in love with his power too much. He has to come to grips with the fact that he will not be able to KO everyone....one of these days he'll have to struggle, he'll have to fight the distance, and he'll have to be able to box for 10-12 rounds. Grant would be a good dangerous fight for him.
    Yes 24 straight KO's is good and bad. There are some guys out there that are simply too good or too damn tough to KO. Oliver McCall falls into the latter category, but I like that crazy SOB and it would be sad to see his record of never being stopped come to an end against a young explosive guy like Wilder, who could possibly stop Oliver at his age.

    I read on Boxingscene that David Price is looking to fight Michael Grant on some shit card in Feb 2013.

    Jameel McCline recently made a comeback, so he also would be a good opponent for Wilder.
    Don't mean to nit pick but Lennox stopped McCall.

    I think Grant is a good opponent for any up and coming HW. Look at the problems he gave Adamek, that gives the likes of Price and Wilder a bit of a measuring stick as to where they are in the division right now.

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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaydarbekStraight View Post
    Seth Mitchell, Eddie Chambers, Chris Arreola all accomplished far more than Wilder had, so far.
    Evander has accomplished more than them all put together but I don't think he's better than them anymore. Then again...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Wilder looked explosive and confident as hell in there against Manswell. But, I had never even heard of Manswell before, none the less his credentials and record indicated he was a decent opponent.

    The confidence Wilder showed is very unique in today's heavyweight picture. I like what Lyle is saying with putting him in there with someone like Dominick Guinn next.

    May I also suggest Michael Grant as I think that could be a really fun fight for Wilder.
    Wilder will no doubt have to step up and hopefully it's before he falls in love with his power too much. He has to come to grips with the fact that he will not be able to KO everyone....one of these days he'll have to struggle, he'll have to fight the distance, and he'll have to be able to box for 10-12 rounds. Grant would be a good dangerous fight for him.
    Yes 24 straight KO's is good and bad. There are some guys out there that are simply too good or too damn tough to KO. Oliver McCall falls into the latter category, but I like that crazy SOB and it would be sad to see his record of never being stopped come to an end against a young explosive guy like Wilder, who could possibly stop Oliver at his age.

    I read on Boxingscene that David Price is looking to fight Michael Grant on some shit card in Feb 2013.

    Jameel McCline recently made a comeback, so he also would be a good opponent for Wilder.
    Don't mean to nit pick but Lennox stopped McCall.

    I think Grant is a good opponent for any up and coming HW. Look at the problems he gave Adamek, that gives the likes of Price and Wilder a bit of a measuring stick as to where they are in the division right now.
    lol Yes everyone knows McCall had a detox breakdown and infamously cried and quit in that one.

    I should have said "never been knocked off his feet or KO'd", I just assumed people knew what I meant.

    Point being that McCall is extremely durable and tough as they come.

    Yes Grant is an underachiever for his size and talent, but still dangerous even at 40 due to that very size and talent. Seems like a hell of a nice guy too.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    Been thinking on a ancient brick wall like McCall. The way Wilder shoots his load early and lack of depth could be very exploitable by a guy who is the literal answer to quiz question "who has the thickest chin" and cold just sponge. He has the look of a guy who might gas being so use to guys falling over at first pressure, just focus on good-quality opponents and should get adversity and learning own pace and stamina he needs desperately.

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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Been thinking on a ancient brick wall like McCall. The way Wilder shoots his load early and lack of depth could be very exploitable by a guy who is the literal answer to quiz question "who has the thickest chin" and cold just sponge. He has the look of a guy who might gas being so use to guys falling over at first pressure, just focus on good-quality opponents and should get adversity and learning own pace and stamina he needs desperately.
    Thats true you never know McCall could have a chance as he is not human and slow as molasses but still packs a punch.

    He's lost to lesser fighters than Wilder in recent years so I wouldn't give McCall much of a shot, but I'd be rooting for him.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    It's difficult to accurately evaluate Deontay Wilder because his opposition has been so poor.

    I'd like to see him in with some decent journeymen like Travis Walker, Derek Chisora and Michael Grant.

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    Default Re: I think Deontay Wilder is now the top HW in the U.S.

    Wilder is just one of many protected US prospects.

    That's the problem with the sport nowadays, no risk takers, they all want to hold onto that 0 rather than actually build a fuckin legacy...so what if you lose, you lose taking on the best rather than win taking on no one!!

    Ironic thing is these same ppl will slate the likes of 24-0 povetkin yet at 12-0 he fought larry donald who had defeated witherspoon, tyrell biggs and holyfield etc

    -At 13-0 he fought Byrd
    -14-0 Eddie chambers
    -15-0 Jason Estrada (who was arguably undefeated)
    -21-0 Chagaev
    -23-0 Huck

    Along with a host of other contenders like david bostice and javier mora. Wilder at 24-0 has yet to fight anyone as good as mora lol.

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