Do you belıeve ınthe Bıg Bang theory?

[brocktonblockbust]

all great poınts---andre why the fock dıd you delete whatever your post was gonna be? Im sure ıt was stellar lıke all the rest of your posts. please repost.

ı belıeve there are multı-unıverses wıthın multı-unıverses wıthın clusters of multı-unıverses. I belıeve ın the end ıt all comes back to whatever ıt was at the begınnıng and then keeps on repeatıng thıs same sequence ad ınfınıtum.

[pacfan]

...my soul is like a water in a glass,
as I meditate, the glass is lowered into the ocean of consciousness,
and my soul becomes transparent...
and gradually my soul is spilled gently into the ocean
and I become one with the ocean -
ocean of consciouness
where everything void, just void...


They say big bang started from a proto-universe tightly packed into an infinitely small space, which means it started from something much more smaller than the tip of a needle, in fact, zillions of times smaller than that. Can you grasp that. If anything is infinitely small, that means it's nothing or a total void. So either we came out from nothing or the scientists are wrong...

Alright, that was just a joke, let me restate it:

...my soul is like a water in a glass, glass of ego,
and as I meditate, the glass is lowered into the ocean of consciousness,
and my soul becomes transparent...
and gradually my soul is spilled gently into the ocean
leaving the glass of ego behind
and I become one with the ocean -
ocean of consciouness
where there is only one consciousness...

-pacfan


'this world is just an illusion' -chinese proverb (I think)


Now, seriously. Couple years back, I heard about this idea, that what's happening around the world is just a holographical projection coming out from the black hole. I immediately dismissed it as another case of psuedo-science at work. But couple of months back, I was surprised (naw, it was more like I was horrified) to watch in one of the nature-oriented tv chanels (Discovery, perhaps) that it is actually a legitimate scientific theory or hypothesis, which some scientists are now trying to prove. The scientist advocates of the idea are planning to set a facility, another billion dollar project perhaps, to prove their idea. (If you're not familiar with this idea and interested in it, just type holographical universe on google or youtube and you should get some results.)

A holographic projection from a blackhole! That's what we're experiencing in this world? Wow, that's real strange, or more like horrific. Is it for real or is it a case of science gone mad. So what's happening is not actually happening here but merely being projected somewhere from the blackhole. So the blackhole must be the doorway to another world where scientist today concede they have absolutely no idea what's in there and how things operate there because things there doesn't operate the way things operate here. So the big question is, where does that leave the big bang theory? Was it the real thing or just a projection? It's getting curioser and curioser.

To conclude, all I can say is just one thing - we don't know for sure what is real and what is not in this world. Even scientist can't prove with absolute sureness that what we see, hear, etc. in this world are real because in reality, it's supposedly all being done in our brain, and we're even not sure if the brain even exist because again, it's only an image produced by whatever thing that actually processes our senses. But there is only one reality or truth in this world - the universal truth. But I'll not spoil the fun and leave you fellas to find the answer yourselves...


'But there is only one reality or truth in this world - the universal truth.'

[Andre]

all great poınts---andre why the fock dıd you delete whatever your post was gonna be? Im sure ıt was stellar lıke all the rest of your posts. please repost.

ı belıeve there are multı-unıverses wıthın multı-unıverses wıthın clusters of multı-unıverses. I belıeve ın the end ıt all comes back to whatever ıt was at the begınnıng and then keeps on repeatıng thıs same sequence ad ınfınıtum.

Cheers but its not worth it, some things are meant to be searched for and found, everything in the world; products and different knowledge are all being cheapened to the lowest denominator its all out there for the taking.

Its the still the journey not the end that counts for the moment.

In short, from my own perspective only so dont take it as verbatim; I think dark matter is the 12th dimension with all the other within it. All 11 dimensions that are known to science now make up ONE with dark matter being the birth place of them.

We cant see it though, we are material 4d experiencers only. But now we know for fact there is no such thing as nothing; dark matter is far from nothing.
Nothing is concept in duality only.

There are two base energies electric and magnetic we are strings of vibrating frequency and every string has effects on every other one how ever far apart like an ocean one drop expands the lot or one leaving effects the lot.

Let there be light and bang there was light, an explosion outward from the void. Again the Void is not nothing it embraces us.

[IamInuit]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

[Andre]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

[Scrap]

I think everything started with a Black Holes. Then Capillary attraction took over

[IamInuit]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

Well I suppose that’s possible since Einstein essentially proved that there are at least 14 dimensions and theorized that sooner or later we will discover the God equation. May even be a couple of doppelganger dimensions. I should have been a little clearer on the God thing. Its not that I dismiss the notion or its possibility but I do dismiss is the organized religion’s interpretation. I just can’t imagine a God that rewards and punishes those it created or a creator that is really no better then we are and flawed to the core. I’m of the mind that somewhere along the line intelligence met science and they had a physical relationship.

[Beanz]

For me it is much like people discussing a great work of art. The language and terminology each individual uses will be dictated not only by their own personal experience but the way they see the world. To frame an answer that describes the work in question in any other way is impossible without intense study or different life experiences. Buddhist monk, or emminent Physicist, as long as they refrain from a dogmatic approach in which they insist that their interpretation can not be challenged, can both have interpretations that are equally as valid. Even in Orthodox Judaism, in what has become a monotheistic faith, the idea of challenging and questioning God is ingrained as a venerable tradition. I am rambling a little but after a serious examination of faiths and beliefs, I have found the same passion and awestruck wonder in the magnificence of existence, in atheists and Imans, Scientists and Sufis.

[Mars_ax]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

Well I suppose that’s possible since Einstein essentially proved that there are at least 14 dimensions and theorized that sooner or later we will discover the God equation. May even be a couple of doppelganger dimensions. I should have been a little clearer on the God thing. Its not that I dismiss the notion or its possibility but I do dismiss is the organized religion’s interpretation. I just can’t imagine a God that rewards and punishes those it created or a creator that is really no better then we are and flawed to the core. I’m of the mind that somewhere along the line intelligence met science and they had a physical relationship.

I totally dismiss the notion that a "god" somehow created the Universe & all things in it, and the gods created by religions are simply man-made nonsense. I also find the practice of worshiping gods antiquated, demeaning and repulsive. When things are going good, give credit to god but when things are going bad, blame it on man, yeah right.

[brocktonblockbust]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

yes I have always belıeved ın a SUPER MIND-----THERE IS A SUPER MIND, ETERNAL.......

[Andre]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

Well I suppose that’s possible since Einstein essentially proved that there are at least 14 dimensions and theorized that sooner or later we will discover the God equation. May even be a couple of doppelganger dimensions. I should have been a little clearer on the God thing. Its not that I dismiss the notion or its possibility but I do dismiss is the organized religion’s interpretation. I just can’t imagine a God that rewards and punishes those it created or a creator that is really no better then we are and flawed to the core. I’m of the mind that somewhere along the line intelligence met science and they had a physical relationship.

I totally dismiss the notion that a "god" somehow created the Universe & all things in it, and the gods created by religions are simply man-made nonsense. I also find the practice of worshiping gods antiquated, demeaning and repulsive. When things are going good, give credit to god but when things are going bad, blame it on man, yeah right.

Think you'll find thats the false image being worshiped that way.
We get back what we put in,some people raise hell others do the reverse thats their choice which way they go, no ones elses. If there is a barrier to eventually stop them from coming into my space, thats their choice for crossing that line, not some vengeful Gods. The first and second dimension are stifling.

[Scrap]

How do we know there was a Bang, did anyone witness it .

[Andre]

How do we know there was a Bang, did anyone witness it .

Ahh a bit like a tree in forest falling with no one there to witness, does it make a noise?

If no woman hears us speak is a man still wrong?

[IamInuit]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

Well I suppose that’s possible since Einstein essentially proved that there are at least 14 dimensions and theorized that sooner or later we will discover the God equation. May even be a couple of doppelganger dimensions. I should have been a little clearer on the God thing. Its not that I dismiss the notion or its possibility but I do dismiss is the organized religion’s interpretation. I just can’t imagine a God that rewards and punishes those it created or a creator that is really no better then we are and flawed to the core. I’m of the mind that somewhere along the line intelligence met science and they had a physical relationship.

I totally dismiss the notion that a "god" somehow created the Universe & all things in it, and the gods created by religions are simply man-made nonsense. I also find the practice of worshiping gods antiquated, demeaning and repulsive. When things are going good, give credit to god but when things are going bad, blame it on man, yeah right.

Neither theory passes the simple jelly bean test or the first law of physics. Still...we exist so something happened.

[Mars_ax]

ıt doesnt really solve the problem of fırst begınnıngs does ıt.... so everythıng came from thıs ınfınıtely small partıcle whıch exploded.....
but where dıd that ınfınıtely small partıcel come from?

I have a problem with random chance being the father of all things. I also have a problem with the concept of G-d taking it's place.

How about a form of super consiusness that is experiencing everything through expansion of consciousness and life within the limits of different dimensions. So like us its blind to its other experiences when compressed into a chosen dimension?

Well I suppose that’s possible since Einstein essentially proved that there are at least 14 dimensions and theorized that sooner or later we will discover the God equation. May even be a couple of doppelganger dimensions. I should have been a little clearer on the God thing. Its not that I dismiss the notion or its possibility but I do dismiss is the organized religion’s interpretation. I just can’t imagine a God that rewards and punishes those it created or a creator that is really no better then we are and flawed to the core. I’m of the mind that somewhere along the line intelligence met science and they had a physical relationship.

I totally dismiss the notion that a "god" somehow created the Universe & all things in it, and the gods created by religions are simply man-made nonsense. I also find the practice of worshiping gods antiquated, demeaning and repulsive. When things are going good, give credit to god but when things are going bad, blame it on man, yeah right.

Neither theory passes the simple jelly bean test or the first law of physics. Still...we exist so something happened.

The only thing our human existence proves is that life occurs in the right conditions, and can evolve into a higher life form. (like miles)
Considering what our primitive biological origins were, I believe man is pretty fucking amazing and incredibly intelligent.