Froch opponent announced: Yusef Mack

[Dropanuke]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

[erics44]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

[Dropanuke]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

You are right as id get in the ring with prime Tyson bare fist if you gave me enough money. England vs Wales? What an odd thing to think.
Maybe cleverly should come down to 168? Oh I forgot he can't do it even though a 42 year old glen Johnson can?? That's what's odd

[superheavyrhun]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

You are right as id get in the ring with prime Tyson bare fist if you gave me enough money. England vs Wales? What an odd thing to think.
Maybe cleverly should come down to 168? Oh I forgot he can't do it even though a 42 year old glen Johnson can?? That's what's odd

I wouldn't find that particularly odd, mainly because Cleverly is five inches taller than Johnson and has a larger build. He was 19 when he last fought at SMW, and he was little more than a skinny kid who was still growing back then.

If it's not to do with England v Wales, why make the Calzaghe / Cleverly comparison?

As for Froch v Mack, it's nice for Froch to get a reasonably well-known name who should be fairly straightforward for him to enjoy as a hometown fighter.

[Dropanuke]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

You are right as id get in the ring with prime Tyson bare fist if you gave me enough money. England vs Wales? What an odd thing to think.
Maybe cleverly should come down to 168? Oh I forgot he can't do it even though a 42 year old glen Johnson can?? That's what's odd

I wouldn't find that particularly odd, mainly because Cleverly is five inches taller than Johnson and has a larger build. He was 19 when he last fought at SMW, and he was little more than a skinny kid who was still growing back then.

If it's not to do with England v Wales, why make the Calzaghe / Cleverly comparison?

As for Froch v Mack, it's nice for Froch to get a reasonably well-known name who should be fairly straightforward for him to enjoy as a hometown fighter.

If you Want to think its enGland vs Wales then call it karma!! If cleverly can make 168 then do so but froch doesn't need to go up for that belt which has little relevance unless you unify it with another belt to make the guy holding it worth something!! Does Dawson look interested in fighting clev? No!! Cos there are bigger and better things out there.

[roberto duran legend]

Kessler has had tons of fights like this , in his own back yard,
about time Froch had a easy night.

[Dropanuke]

Kessler has had tons of fights like this , in his own back yard,
about time Froch had a easy night.

Amen!!

[AdamGB]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

You are right as id get in the ring with prime Tyson bare fist if you gave me enough money. England vs Wales? What an odd thing to think.
Maybe cleverly should come down to 168? Oh I forgot he can't do it even though a 42 year old glen Johnson can?? That's what's odd

I wouldn't find that particularly odd, mainly because Cleverly is five inches taller than Johnson and has a larger build. He was 19 when he last fought at SMW, and he was little more than a skinny kid who was still growing back then.

If it's not to do with England v Wales, why make the Calzaghe / Cleverly comparison?

Because back then Froch was seen as green at world level (like cleverly is now) and calzaghe had had a string of high profile title bouts (like froch now)?...

You don't see the simularities in level? Calzaghe's excuse for avoiding Froch was that he was not on his level... Froch is obviously levels above cleverly who was handed his belt and hasn't really fought anybody yet.

[roberto duran legend]

Froch is the best British world champion of the last decade in my humble opinion.

[ross]

Froch is the best British world champion of the last decade in my humble opinion.

I respect your opinion but Calzaghe wouldnt have let Ward dictate the way he did, or lose, or lose to Kessler for that matter.

[superheavyrhun]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

You are right as id get in the ring with prime Tyson bare fist if you gave me enough money. England vs Wales? What an odd thing to think.
Maybe cleverly should come down to 168? Oh I forgot he can't do it even though a 42 year old glen Johnson can?? That's what's odd

I wouldn't find that particularly odd, mainly because Cleverly is five inches taller than Johnson and has a larger build. He was 19 when he last fought at SMW, and he was little more than a skinny kid who was still growing back then.

If it's not to do with England v Wales, why make the Calzaghe / Cleverly comparison?

Because back then Froch was seen as green at world level (like cleverly is now) and calzaghe had had a string of high profile title bouts (like froch now)?...

You don't see the simularities in level? Calzaghe's excuse for avoiding Froch was that he was not on his level... Froch is obviously levels above cleverly who was handed his belt and hasn't really fought anybody yet.

They're in different weight classes, and that aspect of it isn't going to get resolved. Cleverly won't be able to burn back down to 168, and Froch's not leaving that division unless he gets beat and loses his title.

Also, Froch spent much of his time earlier on calling out Calzaghe after almost every win. Cleverly hasn't really done that for the reasons mentioned above. In terms of the respective stages of their careers then it is similar, but the obstacles between Froch v Calzaghe were very different to the obstacles between Froch v Cleverly.

The original point made was that Froch would be giving Cleverly a chance...there's no chance there for Cleverly beyond maybe picking up a vacant belt at LH, whereas Calzaghe was unified champion holding the belts in the division in which the fights would take place.

[shza]

If Froch were to go up to LH, a fight with Cloud is the one I would most want to see. I think that would be a GREAT fight. Cleverly is a nobody and always will be. He's just not very good.

[Dropanuke]

He won't because he is shit! Even his family and promoter agree!!

[Dropanuke]

Basically Calzaghe hardly fought anyone, and if froch did the same he would be 80-0 undefeated!
The way I see it and yes I am pro froch. Frochs 2 losses are the equivalent of calzaghes undefeated record!!
Smoke that! Dig it!

[erics44]

No chance! Froch has no business at that weight. He is a natural super mid weight. Cleverly should fight Hopkins etc but he wont because he won't travel like froch. Froch has nothing to prove at domestic level. Cleverly hasn't proved yet and fighting froch isn't the answer but granted would be a big scalp.
Calzaghe didn't give froch a chance so why should froch give cleverly a chance

ha, is this some kind of england v wales thing?

i dont see the two as being related

if froch was offered enough money i am sure he would consider it

You are right as id get in the ring with prime Tyson bare fist if you gave me enough money. England vs Wales? What an odd thing to think.
Maybe cleverly should come down to 168? Oh I forgot he can't do it even though a 42 year old glen Johnson can?? That's what's odd

I wouldn't find that particularly odd, mainly because Cleverly is five inches taller than Johnson and has a larger build. He was 19 when he last fought at SMW, and he was little more than a skinny kid who was still growing back then.

If it's not to do with England v Wales, why make the Calzaghe / Cleverly comparison?

Because back then Froch was seen as green at world level (like cleverly is now) and calzaghe had had a string of high profile title bouts (like froch now)?...

You don't see the simularities in level? Calzaghe's excuse for avoiding Froch was that he was not on his level... Froch is obviously levels above cleverly who was handed his belt and hasn't really fought anybody yet.

all that is true, its still a strange comparrison to make

Eddie Hearn: Carl do you want to fight Cleverly for loads of money?
Carl Froch: Er hang on a minute Eddie, did Joe Calzaghe fight me when I asked him for one?
Eddie Hearn: No Carl
Carl Froch: Well I'm not fighting Cleverly then
Eddie Hearn: What about a Tony Bellew fight for loads of money then
Carl Froch: Er hang on a minute Eddie, did Joe Calzaghe fight me when I asked him for one?
Eddie Hearn: No Carl
Carl Froch: Well I'm not fighting Bellew either then

yeah i can see what you mean, quite a good comparrison after all