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This about sums it up for me, too.


Rick Reilly: Armstrong still worth honoring - ESPN
That is a VERY Dumb article.


It says the author still supports Lance, although it's possible he may be guilty of taking PED's. No different than what a lot of other Armstrong supporters are saying.

Exactly. It says even if he did cheat, which several people attest to him doing as well as owning up to doing so themselves,then the author doesn't care anymore? Mainly because everyone else was. I suppose then you do not take issue with Boxers using PED's because supposedly everyone is. This is the line of argument employed by Larry Olubamiwo.

If you bothered to read into the intent of the article, it basically says that the author (as well as a lot of other people) is not going to quit supporting Armstrong based on this witch-hunt (which it was, regardless of the actual events). And he's not withdrawing his support, mainly because of the inspiration that Armstrong has represented for millions of people, in a very worthwhile cause..... cancer.

To ignore Armstrong's positive influence on millions of people, and to compare him with the boxers who use PEDs..... is to be a bit unfair, IMO. Tell me..... how many boxers do you know of who have inspired even ONE person? Most of the PED users have been known to be self-serving assholes.

Priceless. I knew the authors intent before I read the article because he has been pedalling the same krap for a while now. Despite that I still read the article. If you are a cheat you are a cheat, inspiring people by fighting cancer is another issue entirely. How about your hero Ali? Are all these PED using boxers self-serving assholes? -Vitali Klitschko,Roy Jones jr, Mosely. If Manny is caught using will that render his homeless rat eating urchin, to charitable senator story uninspiring? No, but he will still be a cheat.


You're a regular Rick Reilly reader, are you? Anyway... I was careful to say "most" PED users, as I'm not prone to broad generalizations. But many definitely are (self-serving), in the sense that they have little other "society-improvement" qualities. Fact is.... nothing was ever proven on Armstrong. Never failed a drug test... was never disqualified for refusing to take a drug test. A lot of it is circumstantial, and "sour grapes" testimony from beaten adversaries and jealous teammates. A few posts back, I refuted some "evidence" with facts. I won't repeat them again, but you're free to look back and read them. Why Armstrong decided to give trying to fend off the USADA is anybody's guess, but only he knows for sure. Whatever any of us has to say is pure speculation.

By the way.... where did you read that Ali was my hero?
Just curious.