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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    Quick pop-quiz for the genius who started this thread:

    In what country did Bernard Hopkins fight his two most-recent fights?

    (Hint: not the U.S.)

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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quick pop-quiz for the genius who started this thread:

    In what country did Bernard Hopkins fight his two most-recent fights?

    (Hint: not the U.S.)

    actually... his last two fights were in the usa... but the previous two were in quebec.

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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quick pop-quiz for the genius who started this thread:

    In what country did Bernard Hopkins fight his two most-recent fights?

    (Hint: not the U.S.)
    In the USA.

    Quick pop-quiz for the genius "shza" - what does "overseas" mean?

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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    There are different reasons why fighters fight abroad, Ricky Hatton had conquered the UK and became the legitimate world champion here. However in order to break into the US market he has to fight over there. To maximise his money.

    Joe wanted to fight in MSG which is a dream come true for most fighters or Las Vegas.

    Ward can dictate where he fights, so he will choose where he is comfortable, the same with Floyd because it allows him to use injections in his hands.

    The Klitscko are earning sufficient money and have more than enough popularity to not worry about breaking the US market.

    Steve Cunningham basically had to fight in Europe to earn a living as he was not appreciated in the US.
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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quick pop-quiz for the genius who started this thread:

    In what country did Bernard Hopkins fight his two most-recent fights?

    (Hint: not the U.S.)
    In the USA.

    Quick pop-quiz for the genius "shza" - what does "overseas" mean?
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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    Mayweather is currently the highest earning sportsman in the world let alone boxer. And that is 100% down to PPV (Pac is the second highest earner).

    AS for Hopkins and Ward that's entirely different. They are small fry in the States let alone the rest of the world.
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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    On a personal level it doesn't really matter to me if a fighter travels overseas or not. What matters to me is if he is fighting quality opposition and winning. Now if a fighter keeps getting gift hometown decisions then of course I would give your point merit and it does have merit for many of these title holders (I'm trying a new thing, refusing to call anyone but a lineal champ, a champion.)

    Allow me to ask you this though, would Mayweather's win over Cotto have been any different if he would have fought him in Japan or South Africa? Or Hopkins victory over De La Hoya if they were to fight in Spain?

    I understand on a deeper level the fact that if a champion travels the world he is in effect seeking out challenges but if the challenge always comes to him, wouldn't you're point be valid merely on semantics rather than the spirit of your argument?

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    Default Re: Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quick pop-quiz for the genius who started this thread:

    In what country did Bernard Hopkins fight his two most-recent fights?

    (Hint: not the U.S.)
    In the USA.

    Quick pop-quiz for the genius "shza" - what does "overseas" mean?
    Sorry, it was the two fights before those that were in Canada. If you were actually using "overseas" literally, rather than just to mean "in a foreign country that is the home country of your opponent," you'll have to explain why that distinction makes any difference whatsoever to the point you're trying to make.

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