Team Ward dare Joe Calzaghe to come out of retirement

[captainanddew]

I haven't spent alot of time thinking about who would win the fight.

I do know Ward has beaten as many top 10 ring ranked fighters at 168 that Calzaghe did over a decade. Ward did it in 2 yrs and 10 months. And Ward also beat the top fighter at 175. All in 2 yrs 10 months.

Calzaghe fought behind undeserving mandatories for too long. He could have beaten everyone, but he faced easier foes for too many years.

[Dia bando]

I haven't spent alot of time thinking about who would win the fight.

I do know Ward has beaten as many top 10 ring ranked fighters at 168 that Calzaghe did over a decade. Ward did it in 2 yrs and 10 months. And Ward also beat the top fighter at 175. All in 2 yrs 10 months.

Calzaghe fought behind undeserving mandatories for too long. He could have beaten everyone, but he faced easier foes for too many years.

I spent no time at all, Calzaghe you forgot Dawson came down in weight, were Joe moved up in weight.

[captainanddew]

I haven't spent alot of time thinking about who would win the fight.

I do know Ward has beaten as many top 10 ring ranked fighters at 168 that Calzaghe did over a decade. Ward did it in 2 yrs and 10 months. And Ward also beat the top fighter at 175. All in 2 yrs 10 months.

Calzaghe fought behind undeserving mandatories for too long. He could have beaten everyone, but he faced easier foes for too many years.

I spent no time at all, Calzaghe you forgot Dawson came down in weight, were Joe moved up in weight.

when it takes a fighter a decade to fight the same number of ring ranked fighters as a guy who does it in 34 months, then a fighter is wasting his career. As Joe C spent a great %of time doing so. And when Joe C moved up. he moved up to fight 2 guys in their 40s.

If Calzaghe's ambition had matched his talent, he would have done so much more. Instead he was more than happy to face undeserving mandatories.

[captainanddew]

Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.

[imp]

Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.

Roy jones moved up in weight many times and was the heavyweight champion of the world.

The sad thing is jc has set the blueprint for cleverly who is going the same way..at least enzo mac had the balls to fight the best in his divison in haye..jc never did and never will.

[Dia bando]

Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.

What opponents you face, has a lot to do with how much money you make, boxing is a business first it's
about making a living. Calzaghe had many problems with his hands, so you may say injury diktats when you fight, Many great match up's never happened because, of injury it's part and parcel of the
fight game is it not.

[imp]

Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.

What opponents you face, has a lot to do with how much money you make, boxing is a business first it's
about making a living. Calzaghe had many problems with his hands, so you may say injury diktats when you fight, Many great match up's never happened because, of injury it's part and parcel of the
fight game is it not.

Ward had TWO broken bones in left hand before fighting froch...he never pulled out.

[Dia bando]

Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.

What opponents you face, has a lot to do with how much money you make, boxing is a business first it's
about making a living. Calzaghe had many problems with his hands, so you may say injury diktats when you fight, Many great match up's never happened because, of injury it's part and parcel of the
fight game is it not.

Ward had TWO broken bones in left hand before fighting froch...he never pulled out.

Calzaghe was told his wrist, injury was so bad he should stop boxing but he did NOT.

[imp]

If jc spent the majority of his career not ducking warriors like glen johnson and fighting manfredos he would have been the best super middleweight ever.
Nathan cleverly is waiting for bad chad to have a few more losses then he will fight him, beat him and be treated like a king like joe.
What a joke.

[Dropanuke]

......ward who is full of fear of leaving USA even to go on holiday

[imp]

Ward chose to slow down.

[Althugz]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-1263415/Joe-Calzaghes-cocaine-jealousy-betrayal-The-dark-secrets-world-champion-boxer-ex-girlfriend.html

Well, I think Joe's ex of 5 years shows you all of the parallels between Joe Calzaghe the "man" and Joe Calzaghe the boxer.

Jealous, cowardly, delusional and simply picking on people weaker than himself

[erics44]

ward and dawson was a rubbish fight, for the two "best" their their divisions

I didnt watch it live, i ended up forwarding most of it

if calzaghe fought ward it would be another sh!t fight

someone needs to stop the holding

[TheMacMagician]

Wards team are clutching at straws trying for a Calzaghe fight. Ridiculous. Shows how much they rate their opposition at SMW and LHW.

Rather than thinking about Calzaghe, Ward needs to do two things:

1. Fight outside of Oakland.

2. Fight a Light Heavyweight AT Light Heavyweight.

Next Ward will be offering Martinez a fight at 168 or Bernard Hopkins a fight at 168.

Ward has really grown on me though. Quality on Saturday. Was really disappointed in Dawson though, poor show.

Ward beats Calzaghe IMO.

[Beanflicker]

You can say what you want about Calzaghe and his opposition (it wasn't great, let's be real), but the guy is 40 years old and hasn't fought in 4 years.

I really don't see how beating Calzaghe at this point proves anything for Ward.