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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

    It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.
    What opponents you face, has a lot to do with how much money you make, boxing is a business first it's
    about making a living. Calzaghe had many problems with his hands, so you may say injury diktats when you fight, Many great match up's never happened because, of injury it's part and parcel of the
    fight game is it not.
    Ward had TWO broken bones in left hand before fighting froch...he never pulled out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Joe C could have been an all time great. He had that kind of talent. he didn't have that kind of ambition. I feel like whoever you want to blame (him, promoter, manager, all 3) cheated the fans. The top 3-4 guys in each generation need to reach for the stars .Be as special as possible. If anything overreach in their ambition.

    It is a much bigger mistake for a fighter like Joe C to be fighting undeserving mandatories for quite a while than for him to fail because he went for too much. Same for RoyJones and some of the subpar competition he faced in the 1990s.
    What opponents you face, has a lot to do with how much money you make, boxing is a business first it's
    about making a living. Calzaghe had many problems with his hands, so you may say injury diktats when you fight, Many great match up's never happened because, of injury it's part and parcel of the
    fight game is it not.
    Ward had TWO broken bones in left hand before fighting froch...he never pulled out.
    Calzaghe was told his wrist, injury was so bad he should stop boxing but he did NOT.

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    If jc spent the majority of his career not ducking warriors like glen johnson and fighting manfredos he would have been the best super middleweight ever.
    Nathan cleverly is waiting for bad chad to have a few more losses then he will fight him, beat him and be treated like a king like joe.
    What a joke.

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    ......ward who is full of fear of leaving USA even to go on holiday

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    Default Re: Team Ward dare Joe Calzaghe to come out of retirement

    prime calzaghe vs Ward right now would be such a good fight though, now thats a tough one to pick IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    prime calzaghe vs Ward right now would be such a good fight though, now thats a tough one to pick IMO.
    True both are great winners and have plan B and C if it is not working. Joe should stay retired.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Ward chose to slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Ward chose to slow down.
    Wrong!! Ward was all over the place when froch caught him with a jab in like the tenth round. In round 12 froch was jogging to close the gap and ward was running like dirrell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropanuke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Ward chose to slow down.
    Wrong!! Ward was all over the place when froch caught him with a jab in like the tenth round. In round 12 froch was jogging to close the gap and ward was running like dirrell.
    Watch the last 2 rounds against Bika. Its embarrasing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropanuke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Ward chose to slow down.
    Wrong!! Ward was all over the place when froch caught him with a jab in like the tenth round. In round 12 froch was jogging to close the gap and ward was running like dirrell.
    What a nuthugger. Try that again without ignoring that Ward had been fighting with a broken hand for many rounds at that point. Even putting that aside, no one outside of British nuthuggers thinks the Froch fight was remotely close. The guy has a big heart and takes every challenge and deserves huge respect for that -- but he is and always has been a very crude fighter. Would Ward have been dominated for 10 rounds by Jermain Taylor? Don't think so.

    In Ward, Froch came up against a guy who had just as much heart, will to win, and confidence as he did, but had world-class talent to boot. Same result every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dropanuke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Ward chose to slow down.
    Wrong!! Ward was all over the place when froch caught him with a jab in like the tenth round. In round 12 froch was jogging to close the gap and ward was running like dirrell.
    What a nuthugger. Try that again without ignoring that Ward had been fighting with a broken hand for many rounds at that point. Even putting that aside, no one outside of British nuthuggers thinks the Froch fight was remotely close. The guy has a big heart and takes every challenge and deserves huge respect for that -- but he is and always has been a very crude fighter. Would Ward have been dominated for 10 rounds by Jermain Taylor? Don't think so.

    In Ward, Froch came up against a guy who had just as much heart, will to win, and confidence as he did, but had world-class talent to boot. Same result every time.
    You are correct.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Eubank was way out of prime!

    Theres always an excuse for every fighter. Wards team called out calzaghe and everyone knows jc will stay retired. It was just the cocky response jc made about he would have beaten ward if was still around.
    Retired fighters can say anything!
    The only retired fighter that could come back tomorrow and truly compete is lennox lewis (weak divison).
    A guy who ducked no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Eubank was way out of prime!

    Theres always an excuse for every fighter. Wards team called out calzaghe and everyone knows jc will stay retired. It was just the cocky response jc made about he would have beaten ward if was still around.
    Retired fighters can say anything!
    The only retired fighter that could come back tomorrow and truly compete is lennox lewis (weak divison).
    A guy who ducked no one.
    Come on now most fighters, are cocky bastards are they not.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Eubank was way out of prime!

    Theres always an excuse for every fighter. Wards team called out calzaghe and everyone knows jc will stay retired. It was just the cocky response jc made about he would have beaten ward if was still around.
    Retired fighters can say anything!
    The only retired fighter that could come back tomorrow and truly compete is lennox lewis (weak divison).
    A guy who ducked no one.
    Calzaghe didnt say he could beat him now, he said he would have beaten him.

    Lewis would be shite now and he ducked Chris Byrd. He didnt want to go anywhere near him and I can remember the crap Lewis used to come out with that it would be a lion against a Byrd. He may well have flattened Byrd but I reckon he was scared of beingmade to look a fool by him.

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    Ward is a better fighter now. Whether he can be a multi weight champion remains to be seen.

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