Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
Freddie also isn't as hands on over the years. Remember the discipline he and respect he made James Toney have for him and his system if he was gonna be at that camp, he actually got in Toney's face a few times.

This is not the same Freddie Roach that trained James Toney, if it was, there is NO WAY Chavez would have gotten away with what he's gotten away with, nor would Freddie take him on as a trainer. It seems the lee-way he gives to Pacquiao is now sort of standard with his other core fighters, that needs to stop. He seems to have lost that edge that made him a great trainer, his fighters walk all over him and he allows it and keeps a smile on his face. The Freddie that trained James Toney would have been at their house at 6 am and kick them out of bed to go train. But this one sort of let's them come and go as they please and picks up the paycheck for training them. Freddie needs to get out of the game if he is no longer gonna fight for a fighter's respect, or at least kick them out of his gym if they go about it like Chavez did or he'll have more young fighters disgracing his gym.
You can't blame the guy, he's got Parkinson's. He's going to spend the rest of his life paying increasing amounts of dough for medical care so he needs to make as much as he can while he can. Chavez may be a tit but made three million basic for the Martinez fight plus a chunk of the PPV which grossed around thirty million. So that's maybe a six million dollar purse and Freddie gets 10% of it. Who else that he could train is going to make him that kind of money?


Also, too. There are all the test results for steroids/masking agents/diuretics still to come. Anybody think he tests positive for anything else? We should have a sweepstake.