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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Bad guy appeal sells and has a definite effect on all things concerning the fighter including sales in ppv and the gate. Many of the overall numbers are purchased by people who want to him get shit kicked. Those are facts and they can be shown empirically going as far back as ancient Greece. How much does it have to do with the actual cash numbers I have no idea but I'd wager its significant.

    The good guy also sells and one needs to look no further then Hatton. Andre Ward's good boy image on the other hand is over the top. I don't see him ever attaining Hattons type of popularity. Relying on these social media sites to gauge popularity is like using compubox to gauge a fight. I mean with Wards pedigree and accomplishments you would think his numbers would be through the roof in fight revenues. I do not like Ward and its a personality thing. He's a gifted fighter/technician but a part of me would like to see him cold cocked. Now again I will watch his fights anyway because of my love for the sport but I'm sure that a certain percentage of the casual and non boxing fans would pay to see him get decked. Dislike actually has an effect in sales for the exceptional good guy and the exceptional bad guy but admittedly more for the bad guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Bad guy appeal sells and has a definite effect on all things concerning the fighter including sales in ppv and the gate. Many of the overall numbers are purchased by people who want to him get shit kicked. Those are facts and they can be shown empirically going as far back as ancient Greece. How much does it have to do with the actual cash numbers I have no idea but I'd wager its significant.

    The good guy also sells and one needs to look no further then Hatton. Andre Ward's good boy image on the other hand is over the top. I don't see him ever attaining Hattons type of popularity. Relying on these social media sites to gauge popularity is like using compubox to gauge a fight. I mean with Wards pedigree and accomplishments you would think his numbers would be through the roof in fight revenues. I do not like Ward and its a personality thing. He's a gifted fighter/technician but a part of me would like to see him cold cocked. Now again I will watch his fights anyway because of my love for the sport but I'm sure that a certain percentage of the casual and non anboxing fans would pay to see him get decked. Dislike actually has an effect in sales for the exceptional good guy and the exceptional bad guy but admittedly more for the bad anguy.
    I agree with almost everything you've said, with this exception. I like Ward and can't understand why you don't.
    This is not an attack on you, and I'm not saying you should like Ward, I would just like to know why you don't.
    I think we can all agree that Ward is the GOOD Floyd, and Floyd is the BAD Ward. They are both very skilled, cautious, and intelligent boxers who always win.
    I like Ward because he gives respect to everyone around him and I think he means what he says, plus he wins.
    I dislike Floyd because you will never know what is going on in his head. I think I would trust Fenster before Floyd, and Floyd doesn't even drink. Seriously, is the real Floyd the one we saw go to jail for domestic abuse or the one we saw running a 5K for charity. I'm hanging around waiting to see the real Floyd, and buying PPV to see him get knocked on his ass. I don't even care if he wins or loses, I just want to see him sitting on his butt in the middle of the ring because of a solid KD. I know, I know, I'm a petty little shit but that's me.

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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Bad guy appeal sells and has a definite effect on all things concerning the fighter including sales in ppv and the gate. Many of the overall numbers are purchased by people who want to him get shit kicked. Those are facts and they can be shown empirically going as far back as ancient Greece. How much does it have to do with the actual cash numbers I have no idea but I'd wager its significant.

    The good guy also sells and one needs to look no further then Hatton. Andre Ward's good boy image on the other hand is over the top. I don't see him ever attaining Hattons type of popularity. Relying on these social media sites to gauge popularity is like using compubox to gauge a fight. I mean with Wards pedigree and accomplishments you would think his numbers would be through the roof in fight revenues. I do not like Ward and its a personality thing. He's a gifted fighter/technician but a part of me would like to see him cold cocked. Now again I will watch his fights anyway because of my love for the sport but I'm sure that a certain percentage of the casual and non anboxing fans would pay to see him get decked. Dislike actually has an effect in sales for the exceptional good guy and the exceptional bad guy but admittedly more for the bad anguy.
    I agree with almost everything you've said, with this exception. I like Ward and can't understand why you don't.
    This is not an attack on you, and I'm not saying you should like Ward, I would just like to know why you don't.
    I think we can all agree that Ward is the GOOD Floyd, and Floyd is the BAD Ward. They are both very skilled, cautious, and intelligent boxers who always win.
    I like Ward because he gives respect to everyone around him and I think he means what he says, plus he wins.
    I dislike Floyd because you will never know what is going on in his head. I think I would trust Fenster before Floyd, and Floyd doesn't even drink. Seriously, is the real Floyd the one we saw go to jail for domestic abuse or the one we saw running a 5K for charity. I'm hanging around waiting to see the real Floyd, and buying PPV to see him get knocked on his ass. I don't even care if he wins or loses, I just want to see him sitting on his butt in the middle of the ring because of a solid KD. I know, I know, I'm a petty little shit but that's me.
    Fair question. And again ftr I think he's a fantastic fighter. I guess it started with the tourney and him getting home ice throughout and then post the tourney again only fighting at home. Getting away with judges and homie refs. Not even getting a warning for using his head in the Kessler fight. He's also smug to me and a little to squeaky clean. Yet I'm not really bothered by Broner and many people are. Just one of those things I guess. I don't know art but I know what I like.

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