Was he or not!

[Scrap]

In about 84, I helped Train the Met Police Boxing Squad, in the squad there were 3 Detective sargents. They discussed Saville at great length to Me, on a few occasions. They knew He was a Nonce, but Had been told, not to go there, to leave it. As it would open a very big thing with people in very High places, interesting.

Interesting it does not surprise me, the thing is back then things were different.

Yes He had an Office at the Palace, which He shared .

[Howlin Mad Missy]

apparently Cliff Richard is another protected one...

[Dia bando]

apparently Cliff Richard is another protected one...

I was told in the early 80's, by a landlady of a local pub , arrested in a toilet in Preston
so much for the clean cut image.

[Gandalf]

Something about it all just sounds wrong to me. With the numbers being bandied out it just seems absurd that complaints were not made in his lifetime. Savile was a bloody TV presenter of all things, a DJ, if you are predating young children then complaints are made, investigations get done and you get put away. End of.

I am not buying into this 'protected' argument. All those years being allowed to fondle more and more children? Many more people than Savile are responsible for allowing that to go on unchecked if these allegations are true. Jimmy Savile wasn't Kim Jong Il. Just a TV clown who raised money for charity. Not a truly powerful or meaningful individual. Nobody felt prepared to take him on? It makes NO sense.

Nothing can be achieved by raking Savile over the coals now. It was all too long ago and anyone involved is now older and damaged or was involved and is dead. I don't see anywhere it can go. Far too late.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Something about it all just sounds wrong to me. With the numbers being bandied out it just seems absurd that complaints were not made in his lifetime. Savile was a bloody TV presenter of all things, a DJ, if you are predating young children then complaints are made, investigations get done and you get put away. End of.

I am not buying into this 'protected' argument. All those years being allowed to fondle more and more children? Many more people than Savile are responsible for allowing that to go on unchecked if these allegations are true. Jimmy Savile wasn't Kim Jong Il. Just a TV clown who raised money for charity. Not a truly powerful or meaningful individual. Nobody felt prepared to take him on? It makes NO sense.

Nothing can be achieved by raking Savile over the coals now. It was all too long ago and anyone involved is now older and damaged or was involved and is dead. I don't see anywhere it can go. Far too late.

You're an idiot and have no understanding of reality. There is no point in discussing it with you really. You're focused on what can be done about Saville now, there is no point, the point it clearly matters to the women who were abused.

I know of a case of a woman who was sexually assaulted/raped as a kid, it went on for YEARS. The guy was a friend of her mum, he lived next door. It only became public when she was in her late 20's and started to show signs of distress at work and it all came out. Abuse becomes normalised.

I can give you as many examples as you like. It's another subject you know little about.

It's easy for people to sit back and say 'well I would have done this', you don't know. It's not happened to you.

[Master]

There are too many people coming out to say that he was not having sex with under age children. Gandolf, the culture within the institutions that he worked in must have not allowed them to speak up, although they had a responsibility to do something. Children need to be protected and if 16 is the age then adults have to respect that and not abuse their position in power and should know better.

Freddie Star is also now being implicated.

[Gandalf]

There are too many people coming out to say that he was not having sex with under age children. Gandolf, the culture within the institutions that he worked in must have not allowed them to speak up, although they had a responsibility to do something. Children need to be protected and if 16 is the age then adults have to respect that and not abuse their position in power and should know better.

Freddie Star is also now being implicated.

An adult needs to control himself no matter what his urges are and I think that applies to paedophile or playboy alike. You know your boundaries and should never cross them. I recall my math teacher being given the boot because he slept with a student. He had no idea she was a student at the school. But she was 15 and in a nightclub. He was wrong, but she wasn't entirely blameless. Clearly she was sexually aware and looking for a good time. Not really a victim of anything. Anyone could really become a child abuser in that setting.

I keep saying that Savile is likely guilty, but I just don't think it is totally one sided and the fact that NOTHING was ever done in his lifetime just seems really quite absurd to me. The latest brain damage molestation allegation seems a bit much. What next? Savile raped Orville the Duck because he was turned on by the nappy? That I would be concerned about as Orville was nothing more than a toddler.

[Gandalf]

Something about it all just sounds wrong to me. With the numbers being bandied out it just seems absurd that complaints were not made in his lifetime. Savile was a bloody TV presenter of all things, a DJ, if you are predating young children then complaints are made, investigations get done and you get put away. End of.

I am not buying into this 'protected' argument. All those years being allowed to fondle more and more children? Many more people than Savile are responsible for allowing that to go on unchecked if these allegations are true. Jimmy Savile wasn't Kim Jong Il. Just a TV clown who raised money for charity. Not a truly powerful or meaningful individual. Nobody felt prepared to take him on? It makes NO sense.

Nothing can be achieved by raking Savile over the coals now. It was all too long ago and anyone involved is now older and damaged or was involved and is dead. I don't see anywhere it can go. Far too late.

You're an idiot and have no understanding of reality. There is no point in discussing it with you really. You're focused on what can be done about Saville now, there is no point, the point it clearly matters to the women who were abused.

I know of a case of a woman who was sexually assaulted/raped as a kid, it went on for YEARS. The guy was a friend of her mum, he lived next door. It only became public when she was in her late 20's and started to show signs of distress at work and it all came out. Abuse becomes normalised.

I can give you as many examples as you like. It's another subject you know little about.

It's easy for people to sit back and say 'well I would have done this', you don't know. It's not happened to you.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the notion of a 15 year old being a blameless innocent. Savile was likely a bit of a pervert, but many of these teenage girls were sexually aware and were complicit. If you are still shagging the old man into your 20's then you are the idiot. Were you really still playing with Barbie at 15 or did you know a thing or two about the world? I know I did. These were not little girls, these were sexually blossoming teenagers. In centuries gone by you could even marry them.

If it was children of 6 we were talking about with thumb in mouth and a teddy bear in the free arm, I would be a lot more distressed, but otherwise, not really. Savile is dead and the deeds were done. Have you heard the latest claim? A patient recovering from surgery now confesses to having seen Savile molest a brain damaged patient. I mean really, you come out all these years later and make that public. It has become a feeding frenzy.

Likely some truth, but also likely a lot of horseshit too.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Something about it all just sounds wrong to me. With the numbers being bandied out it just seems absurd that complaints were not made in his lifetime. Savile was a bloody TV presenter of all things, a DJ, if you are predating young children then complaints are made, investigations get done and you get put away. End of.

I am not buying into this 'protected' argument. All those years being allowed to fondle more and more children? Many more people than Savile are responsible for allowing that to go on unchecked if these allegations are true. Jimmy Savile wasn't Kim Jong Il. Just a TV clown who raised money for charity. Not a truly powerful or meaningful individual. Nobody felt prepared to take him on? It makes NO sense.

Nothing can be achieved by raking Savile over the coals now. It was all too long ago and anyone involved is now older and damaged or was involved and is dead. I don't see anywhere it can go. Far too late.

You're an idiot and have no understanding of reality. There is no point in discussing it with you really. You're focused on what can be done about Saville now, there is no point, the point it clearly matters to the women who were abused.

I know of a case of a woman who was sexually assaulted/raped as a kid, it went on for YEARS. The guy was a friend of her mum, he lived next door. It only became public when she was in her late 20's and started to show signs of distress at work and it all came out. Abuse becomes normalised.

I can give you as many examples as you like. It's another subject you know little about.

It's easy for people to sit back and say 'well I would have done this', you don't know. It's not happened to you.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the notion of a 15 year old being a blameless innocent. Savile was likely a bit of a pervert, but many of these teenage girls were sexually aware and were complicit. If you are still shagging the old man into your 20's then you are the idiot. Were you really still playing with Barbie at 15 or did you know a thing or two about the world? I know I did. These were not little girls, these were sexually blossoming teenagers. In centuries gone by you could even marry them.

If it was children of 6 we were talking about with thumb in mouth and a teddy bear in the free arm, I would be a lot more distressed, but otherwise, not really. Savile is dead and the deeds were done. Have you heard the latest claim? A patient recovering from surgery now confesses to having seen Savile molest a brain damaged patient. I mean really, you come out all these years later and make that public. It has become a feeding frenzy.

Likely some truth, but also likely a lot of horseshit too.

You're an ignorant bigoted cunt Miles. I have told you of something that happened. I could tell you of more It's a fact. It happened. And because it doesn't fit your view you ignore it and carry on ranting.

You're a stupid man. Your mind is closed. Worthless.