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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

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    Of course the US won't require you to carry that Id. 98 percent of ricans can't afford a ticket out the island with the 5 cents a day wage. The other 2 percent aren't aware other countries exist.


    Why is it you only come out from behind VD's skirt when he's around?
    Just saying.....

    not shocking at all, outspoken has the perfect name on here, cause he's always outspoken about his envy, and well bitching and moaning about how his favorite fighter doesn't amount to shit, although he still chooses to fight nobodies, shot fighters, or smaller guys


    C'mon, El Terrible... be a bit more understanding. What do Outspoken and VD have to root for nowadays? A pink-panties-wearing overhyped, weed-smoking, coddled, cheating asshole, who had his ass handed to him by a one-handed, smaller man. And a cheating, one-eyed, Mongoloid-looking scumbag who is probably working at Burger King now after getting his eye socket shattered and retiring in shame.

    Why can't you be more understanding??
    not true they still have a ginger who continues to look for opponents at Baby Gap, retirement homes, and well picking them off the street, also have a fighter who loves to hug it out and in his own words "doesn't deserve to get hit", oh yea and a welterweight who talks big but only has the balls to fight guys 15 lbs lighter than him, although he jumped up a division after getting schooled at Lightweight
    We got a lot more fighters than you ricans lol. The last thing you guys should be talking about. Cotto is about the last one you guys have left and I respect him true fighter not like you two lil fags. Whatever happen to that hype job " Juan Ma " got beaten by a bum mexican lol
    if becoming a 2 division champion, with wins over the likes of Oquendo, Penalosa, Ponce Deleon, Concepcion, Luevano and R. Marquez is considered being a hype job, then GOD DAMN that's a hell of a hype job, a hell of a lot better than Chavez Jr hahaha

    you're comparing the two in terms of size lol, tell me how many championship level fighters Mexico puts out in a 3.515 sq mi radius? lol and I'm sure that you wont have too many hahaha
    Which ELITE fighter did he beat? ... old ass Marquez was beating his ass with one hand till he gassed out and injured himself. You're still with that bullshit radius? Is that what helps you sleep at night lol. We been over this Uruguy has won the world cup twice with a population of less than 3 million. Brazil has won it 5 times with almost 200 million population... does that mean Uruguay is a better team? Fuck no lol.. you don't hear them bringing that population bullshit.. only you cry babies that's the only way you can even compare to.
    did a fine job sparking De Leon in one, the same De Leon who went on to school Broner, haha and now the thumb is an issue, guess the shots that put Marquez on his ass and wobbling around had nothing to do with Rafa quitting, name one Mexican fighter apart from Juan Manuel Marquez, who's relevant today who takes on ELITE opposition, good luck..., oh yea and also we have the Lineal Jr Welter champ who sparked Khan cold

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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

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    Of course the US won't require you to carry that Id. 98 percent of ricans can't afford a ticket out the island with the 5 cents a day wage. The other 2 percent aren't aware other countries exist.


    Why is it you only come out from behind VD's skirt when he's around?
    Just saying.....

    not shocking at all, outspoken has the perfect name on here, cause he's always outspoken about his envy, and well bitching and moaning about how his favorite fighter doesn't amount to shit, although he still chooses to fight nobodies, shot fighters, or smaller guys


    C'mon, El Terrible... be a bit more understanding. What do Outspoken and VD have to root for nowadays? A pink-panties-wearing overhyped, weed-smoking, coddled, cheating asshole, who had his ass handed to him by a one-handed, smaller man. And a cheating, one-eyed, Mongoloid-looking scumbag who is probably working at Burger King now after getting his eye socket shattered and retiring in shame.

    Why can't you be more understanding??
    not true they still have a ginger who continues to look for opponents at Baby Gap, retirement homes, and well picking them off the street, also have a fighter who loves to hug it out and in his own words "doesn't deserve to get hit", oh yea and a welterweight who talks big but only has the balls to fight guys 15 lbs lighter than him, although he jumped up a division after getting schooled at Lightweight
    We got a lot more fighters than you ricans lol. The last thing you guys should be talking about. Cotto is about the last one you guys have left and I respect him true fighter not like you two lil fags. Whatever happen to that hype job " Juan Ma " got beaten by a bum mexican lol
    if becoming a 2 division champion, with wins over the likes of Oquendo, Penalosa, Ponce Deleon, Concepcion, Luevano and R. Marquez is considered being a hype job, then GOD DAMN that's a hell of a hype job, a hell of a lot better than Chavez Jr hahaha

    you're comparing the two in terms of size lol, tell me how many championship level fighters Mexico puts out in a 3.515 sq mi radius? lol and I'm sure that you wont have too many hahaha
    Which ELITE fighter did he beat? ... old ass Marquez was beating his ass with one hand till he gassed out and injured himself. You're still with that bullshit radius? Is that what helps you sleep at night lol. We been over this Uruguy has won the world cup twice with a population of less than 3 million. Brazil has won it 5 times with almost 200 million population... does that mean Uruguay is a better team? Fuck no lol.. you don't hear them bringing that population bullshit.. only you cry babies that's the only way you can even compare to.
    did a fine job sparking De Leon in one, the same De Leon who went on to school Broner, haha and now the thumb is an issue, guess the shots that put Marquez on his ass and wobbling around had nothing to do with Rafa quitting, name one Mexican fighter apart from Juan Manuel Marquez, who's relevant today who takes on ELITE opposition, good luck..., oh yea and also we have the Lineal Jr Welter champ who sparked Khan cold
    You mean Danny Garcia who struggled with an OLD ass Morales and is actually rematching him? Yeah I guess you're right you guys have a bright future lol.

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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

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    Of course the US won't require you to carry that Id. 98 percent of ricans can't afford a ticket out the island with the 5 cents a day wage. The other 2 percent aren't aware other countries exist.


    Why is it you only come out from behind VD's skirt when he's around?
    Just saying.....

    not shocking at all, outspoken has the perfect name on here, cause he's always outspoken about his envy, and well bitching and moaning about how his favorite fighter doesn't amount to shit, although he still chooses to fight nobodies, shot fighters, or smaller guys


    C'mon, El Terrible... be a bit more understanding. What do Outspoken and VD have to root for nowadays? A pink-panties-wearing overhyped, weed-smoking, coddled, cheating asshole, who had his ass handed to him by a one-handed, smaller man. And a cheating, one-eyed, Mongoloid-looking scumbag who is probably working at Burger King now after getting his eye socket shattered and retiring in shame.

    Why can't you be more understanding??
    not true they still have a ginger who continues to look for opponents at Baby Gap, retirement homes, and well picking them off the street, also have a fighter who loves to hug it out and in his own words "doesn't deserve to get hit", oh yea and a welterweight who talks big but only has the balls to fight guys 15 lbs lighter than him, although he jumped up a division after getting schooled at Lightweight
    We got a lot more fighters than you ricans lol. The last thing you guys should be talking about. Cotto is about the last one you guys have left and I respect him true fighter not like you two lil fags. Whatever happen to that hype job " Juan Ma " got beaten by a bum mexican lol
    if becoming a 2 division champion, with wins over the likes of Oquendo, Penalosa, Ponce Deleon, Concepcion, Luevano and R. Marquez is considered being a hype job, then GOD DAMN that's a hell of a hype job, a hell of a lot better than Chavez Jr hahaha

    you're comparing the two in terms of size lol, tell me how many championship level fighters Mexico puts out in a 3.515 sq mi radius? lol and I'm sure that you wont have too many hahaha
    Which ELITE fighter did he beat? ... old ass Marquez was beating his ass with one hand till he gassed out and injured himself. You're still with that bullshit radius? Is that what helps you sleep at night lol. We been over this Uruguy has won the world cup twice with a population of less than 3 million. Brazil has won it 5 times with almost 200 million population... does that mean Uruguay is a better team? Fuck no lol.. you don't hear them bringing that population bullshit.. only you cry babies that's the only way you can even compare to.
    did a fine job sparking De Leon in one, the same De Leon who went on to school Broner, haha and now the thumb is an issue, guess the shots that put Marquez on his ass and wobbling around had nothing to do with Rafa quitting, name one Mexican fighter apart from Juan Manuel Marquez, who's relevant today who takes on ELITE opposition, good luck..., oh yea and also we have the Lineal Jr Welter champ who sparked Khan cold
    You mean Danny Garcia who struggled with an OLD ass Morales and is actually rematching him? Yeah I guess you're right you guys have a bright future lol.
    take it as you want, I mark it more as credit to Morales rather than a knock on Garcia, Morales took Maidana to hell and back so not shocking that my favorite fighter was able to take a less experienced fighter and give him probs, and Garcia still did something that only one other fighter has been able to do, which is drop Morales, and that still is a feat, so take that however you want

    oh yea and answer the question

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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

    Let me get this straight..... you dumbasses root for:

    1. A one-eyed loser, cheating scumbag who had his eye socket rearranged by Pacquaio... and then had the shit beat out of him by Cotto..... only to then retire in shame and go work in McDonalds.

    2. A coddled, son of a former great (also with a bloated record)..... godchild of an openly corrupt WBC president..... who never faced any true competition until he got his ass handed to him..... wearer of pink panties on national television.


    And you have the nerve to criticize our fighters over here??
    Man..... you ARE stupid.
    Tell you what. VD obviously went to bed a long time ago.
    Shouldn't you be there cuddling up to him?


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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Let me get this straight..... you dumbasses root for:

    1. A one-eyed loser, cheating scumbag who had his eye socket rearranged by Pacquaio... and then had the shit beat out of him by Cotto..... only to then retire in shame and go work in McDonalds.

    2. A coddled, son of a former great (also with a bloated record)..... godchild of an openly corrupt WBC president..... who never faced any true competition until he got his ass handed to him..... wearer of pink panties on national television.


    And you have the nerve to criticize our fighters over here??
    Man..... you ARE stupid.
    Tell you what. VD obviously went to bed a long time ago.
    Shouldn't you be there cuddling up to him?

    Home of John Ruiz and Hector Camacho you have you share of scums so fuck off lol.. Honestly bro the only two that would share a bed... or better yet a hut here are you and terrible. You both can cuddle up and call each other papis

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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

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    Of course the US won't require you to carry that Id. 98 percent of ricans can't afford a ticket out the island with the 5 cents a day wage. The other 2 percent aren't aware other countries exist.


    Why is it you only come out from behind VD's skirt when he's around?
    Just saying.....

    not shocking at all, outspoken has the perfect name on here, cause he's always outspoken about his envy, and well bitching and moaning about how his favorite fighter doesn't amount to shit, although he still chooses to fight nobodies, shot fighters, or smaller guys


    C'mon, El Terrible... be a bit more understanding. What do Outspoken and VD have to root for nowadays? A pink-panties-wearing overhyped, weed-smoking, coddled, cheating asshole, who had his ass handed to him by a one-handed, smaller man. And a cheating, one-eyed, Mongoloid-looking scumbag who is probably working at Burger King now after getting his eye socket shattered and retiring in shame.

    Why can't you be more understanding??
    not true they still have a ginger who continues to look for opponents at Baby Gap, retirement homes, and well picking them off the street, also have a fighter who loves to hug it out and in his own words "doesn't deserve to get hit", oh yea and a welterweight who talks big but only has the balls to fight guys 15 lbs lighter than him, although he jumped up a division after getting schooled at Lightweight
    We got a lot more fighters than you ricans lol. The last thing you guys should be talking about. Cotto is about the last one you guys have left and I respect him true fighter not like you two lil fags. Whatever happen to that hype job " Juan Ma " got beaten by a bum mexican lol
    if becoming a 2 division champion, with wins over the likes of Oquendo, Penalosa, Ponce Deleon, Concepcion, Luevano and R. Marquez is considered being a hype job, then GOD DAMN that's a hell of a hype job, a hell of a lot better than Chavez Jr hahaha

    you're comparing the two in terms of size lol, tell me how many championship level fighters Mexico puts out in a 3.515 sq mi radius? lol and I'm sure that you wont have too many hahaha
    Which ELITE fighter did he beat? ... old ass Marquez was beating his ass with one hand till he gassed out and injured himself. You're still with that bullshit radius? Is that what helps you sleep at night lol. We been over this Uruguy has won the world cup twice with a population of less than 3 million. Brazil has won it 5 times with almost 200 million population... does that mean Uruguay is a better team? Fuck no lol.. you don't hear them bringing that population bullshit.. only you cry babies that's the only way you can even compare to.
    did a fine job sparking De Leon in one, the same De Leon who went on to school Broner, haha and now the thumb is an issue, guess the shots that put Marquez on his ass and wobbling around had nothing to do with Rafa quitting, name one Mexican fighter apart from Juan Manuel Marquez, who's relevant today who takes on ELITE opposition, good luck..., oh yea and also we have the Lineal Jr Welter champ who sparked Khan cold
    You mean Danny Garcia who struggled with an OLD ass Morales and is actually rematching him? Yeah I guess you're right you guys have a bright future lol.
    take it as you want, I mark it more as credit to Morales rather than a knock on Garcia, Morales took Maidana to hell and back so not shocking that my favorite fighter was able to take a less experienced fighter and give him probs, and Garcia still did something that only one other fighter has been able to do, which is drop Morales, and that still is a feat, so take that however you want

    oh yea and answer the question
    Oh I thought only you and Tito could avoid questions... Josesito Lopez

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
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    Let me get this straight..... you dumbasses root for:

    1. A one-eyed loser, cheating scumbag who had his eye socket rearranged by Pacquaio... and then had the shit beat out of him by Cotto..... only to then retire in shame and go work in McDonalds.

    2. A coddled, son of a former great (also with a bloated record)..... godchild of an openly corrupt WBC president..... who never faced any true competition until he got his ass handed to him..... wearer of pink panties on national television.


    And you have the nerve to criticize our fighters over here??
    Man..... you ARE stupid.
    Tell you what. VD obviously went to bed a long time ago.
    Shouldn't you be there cuddling up to him?

    Home of John Ruiz and Hector Camacho you have you share of scums so fuck off lol.. Honestly bro the only two that would share a bed... or better yet a hut here are you terrible. You both can cuddle up and call each other papis

    I don't like Ruiz OR Camacho. That's the difference between you and me (well..... that.... and you're an idiot and I'm not). You root for any scumbag just 'cause he's Mexican. Now run along...... VD probably needs his balls scratched. You only appear here when he's here anyway. What other proof do we need that you hide behind his skirts? To each his own, dude.

    Now scoot!

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    Of course the US won't require you to carry that Id. 98 percent of ricans can't afford a ticket out the island with the 5 cents a day wage. The other 2 percent aren't aware other countries exist.


    Why is it you only come out from behind VD's skirt when he's around?
    Just saying.....

    not shocking at all, outspoken has the perfect name on here, cause he's always outspoken about his envy, and well bitching and moaning about how his favorite fighter doesn't amount to shit, although he still chooses to fight nobodies, shot fighters, or smaller guys


    C'mon, El Terrible... be a bit more understanding. What do Outspoken and VD have to root for nowadays? A pink-panties-wearing overhyped, weed-smoking, coddled, cheating asshole, who had his ass handed to him by a one-handed, smaller man. And a cheating, one-eyed, Mongoloid-looking scumbag who is probably working at Burger King now after getting his eye socket shattered and retiring in shame.

    Why can't you be more understanding??
    not true they still have a ginger who continues to look for opponents at Baby Gap, retirement homes, and well picking them off the street, also have a fighter who loves to hug it out and in his own words "doesn't deserve to get hit", oh yea and a welterweight who talks big but only has the balls to fight guys 15 lbs lighter than him, although he jumped up a division after getting schooled at Lightweight
    We got a lot more fighters than you ricans lol. The last thing you guys should be talking about. Cotto is about the last one you guys have left and I respect him true fighter not like you two lil fags. Whatever happen to that hype job " Juan Ma " got beaten by a bum mexican lol
    if becoming a 2 division champion, with wins over the likes of Oquendo, Penalosa, Ponce Deleon, Concepcion, Luevano and R. Marquez is considered being a hype job, then GOD DAMN that's a hell of a hype job, a hell of a lot better than Chavez Jr hahaha

    you're comparing the two in terms of size lol, tell me how many championship level fighters Mexico puts out in a 3.515 sq mi radius? lol and I'm sure that you wont have too many hahaha
    Which ELITE fighter did he beat? ... old ass Marquez was beating his ass with one hand till he gassed out and injured himself. You're still with that bullshit radius? Is that what helps you sleep at night lol. We been over this Uruguy has won the world cup twice with a population of less than 3 million. Brazil has won it 5 times with almost 200 million population... does that mean Uruguay is a better team? Fuck no lol.. you don't hear them bringing that population bullshit.. only you cry babies that's the only way you can even compare to.
    did a fine job sparking De Leon in one, the same De Leon who went on to school Broner, haha and now the thumb is an issue, guess the shots that put Marquez on his ass and wobbling around had nothing to do with Rafa quitting, name one Mexican fighter apart from Juan Manuel Marquez, who's relevant today who takes on ELITE opposition, good luck..., oh yea and also we have the Lineal Jr Welter champ who sparked Khan cold
    You mean Danny Garcia who struggled with an OLD ass Morales and is actually rematching him? Yeah I guess you're right you guys have a bright future lol.
    take it as you want, I mark it more as credit to Morales rather than a knock on Garcia, Morales took Maidana to hell and back so not shocking that my favorite fighter was able to take a less experienced fighter and give him probs, and Garcia still did something that only one other fighter has been able to do, which is drop Morales, and that still is a feat, so take that however you want

    oh yea and answer the question
    Oh I thought only you and Tito could avoid questions... Josesito Lopez
    ummm neither Ortiz or Ginger are elite, but nice try =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Let me get this straight..... you dumbasses root for:

    1. A one-eyed loser, cheating scumbag who had his eye socket rearranged by Pacquaio... and then had the shit beat out of him by Cotto..... only to then retire in shame and go work in McDonalds.

    2. A coddled, son of a former great (also with a bloated record)..... godchild of an openly corrupt WBC president..... who never faced any true competition until he got his ass handed to him..... wearer of pink panties on national television.


    And you have the nerve to criticize our fighters over here??
    Man..... you ARE stupid.
    Tell you what. VD obviously went to bed a long time ago.
    Shouldn't you be there cuddling up to him?

    Home of John Ruiz and Hector Camacho you have you share of scums so fuck off lol.. Honestly bro the only two that would share a bed... or better yet a hut here are you terrible. You both can cuddle up and call each other papis

    I don't like Ruiz OR Camacho. That's the difference between you and me (well..... that.... and you're an idiot and I'm not). You root for any scumbag just 'cause he's Mexican. Now run along...... VD probably needs his balls scratched. You only appear here when he's here anyway. What other proof do we need that you hide behind his skirts? To each his own, dude.

    Now scoot!
    and both still accomplished more than most, and Camacho although boring and a waste of talent, he still was a very talented defensive fighter

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    Default Re: The "Puerto Rico vs. Mexico boxing rivalry" - who's winning?

    Come on folks, edit your posts, it makes them almost illegible and or hard to read.

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    Yeah.... this nesting shit is dizzying.

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    still waiting for this mythical fighter, and if the best you can come up with is Josesito Lopez well that's still a notch below both Juanma Lopez and Danny Garcia

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    still waiting for this mythical fighter, and if the best you can come up with is Josesito Lopez well that's still a notch below both Juanma Lopez and Danny Garcia
    Dude it's kinda sad that you don't see that Josesito Lopez was clearly a sarcastic answer lol

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    still waiting for this mythical fighter, and if the best you can come up with is Josesito Lopez well that's still a notch below both Juanma Lopez and Danny Garcia
    Dude it's kinda sad that you don't see that Josesito Lopez was clearly a sarcastic answer lol
    given ur logic and past comments wouldn't put it passed you, so on a serious note, answer the question, name one significant Mexican fighter apart from JMM, who has any elite level fighter on his record much less a win

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    still waiting for this mythical fighter, and if the best you can come up with is Josesito Lopez well that's still a notch below both Juanma Lopez and Danny Garcia
    Dude it's kinda sad that you don't see that Josesito Lopez was clearly a sarcastic answer lol
    given ur logic and past comments wouldn't put it passed you, so on a serious note, answer the question, name one significant Mexican fighter apart from JMM, who has any elite level fighter on his record much less a win
    Are you trying to set me up to say Chavez jr so you can start with your conspiracy theories? If so there you go. How about you besides Cotto which rican has beaten a p4p fighter or faced one? Wilfredo? That would be your Chavez equivalent

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