Romney vs. Obama - 2012 Presidential Debates - Let's score it!

[Mars_ax]

Well, the percentage of undecided voters between the Republicans and Democrats has actually been going down according to the press coverage we get over here, so the result seems to be going down to a much smaller percentage of the US population.

Personally I hope that the polls are wrong and that the Democrats take it again, but Romney was much more impressive in the first debate. I hope Obama is in a boot camp in the Russian mountains somewhere training like Rocky to overcome in the next couple of debates. Indeed, I hope he gets a training montage.

If I remember right you consider yourself Welsh? In any event you're from the UK, you might feel different about Obama if you were a white male who grew up in the U.S.. The only white male Obama supporters that I know of here in the U.S. are ass-raped liberal imbeciles like Joe Biden/gays or queer actors like George Clooney.

[superheavyrhun]

Well, the percentage of undecided voters between the Republicans and Democrats has actually been going down according to the press coverage we get over here, so the result seems to be going down to a much smaller percentage of the US population.

Personally I hope that the polls are wrong and that the Democrats take it again, but Romney was much more impressive in the first debate. I hope Obama is in a boot camp in the Russian mountains somewhere training like Rocky to overcome in the next couple of debates. Indeed, I hope he gets a training montage.

If I remember right you consider yourself Welsh? In any event you're from the UK, you might feel different about Obama if you were a white male who grew up in the U.S.. The only white male Obama supporters that I know of here in the U.S. are ass-raped liberal imbeciles like Joe Biden/gays or queer actors like George Clooney.

You're right, if I was a white male who grew up in the United States then its perfectly possible that my political leanings would be very different. And indeed, my American friends that I know well are from the north-western states which I understand is naturally more liberal anyway.

One of the differences between politics on both sides of the pond is that voting to the right wing is generally a vote for keeping things the same, and whilst in America there is the hope of the American dream going from nothing to being very wealthy, a vote to the right wing in the UK is more about keeping the rich folks rich and the poor folks poor.

But, like the US, both wings are making more and more concessions until they are much closer together on the middle ground than they traditionally would be.

[Mars_ax]

Well, the percentage of undecided voters between the Republicans and Democrats has actually been going down according to the press coverage we get over here, so the result seems to be going down to a much smaller percentage of the US population.

Personally I hope that the polls are wrong and that the Democrats take it again, but Romney was much more impressive in the first debate. I hope Obama is in a boot camp in the Russian mountains somewhere training like Rocky to overcome in the next couple of debates. Indeed, I hope he gets a training montage.

If I remember right you consider yourself Welsh? In any event you're from the UK, you might feel different about Obama if you were a white male who grew up in the U.S.. The only white male Obama supporters that I know of here in the U.S. are ass-raped liberal imbeciles like Joe Biden/gays or queer actors like George Clooney.

You're right, if I was a white male who grew up in the United States then its perfectly possible that my political leanings would be very different. And indeed, my American friends that I know well are from the north-western states which I understand is naturally more liberal anyway.

One of the differences between politics on both sides of the pond is that voting to the right wing is generally a vote for keeping things the same, and whilst in America there is the hope of the American dream going from nothing to being very wealthy, a vote to the right wing in the UK is more about keeping the rich folks rich and the poor folks poor.

But, like the US, both wings are making more and more concessions until they are much closer together on the middle ground than they traditionally would be.

I don't know anything about politics or the political parties in the UK, I did used to watch some of the televised debates they held in Parliament? Which was a fucking trip, the labor party vs. the conservatives or some such thing. Different speakers would debate each other as only the British/Scottish/Welsh/N. Irish can.
You may mistakenly believe that Democrats (liberals) and Republicans (conservatives) here in the States are similar to the parties in the UK, and from a strictly 'government' or governing perspective that may be somewhat true. However, the sociological, demographic, and ideological differences between the 2 parties is another matter, it's like 2 different cultures. I hope this makes sense.

[Gandalf]

I cannot get over how fickle the US general public is. Latest polls apparently have Romney ahead and on the back of what exactly? He blatantly showed contempt for half of the nation and on the back of a debate which showed him talking out of his arse, people have now decided 'he'll do then'. It is nonsense. Part of me cannot help but feel it is all one big pantomime, a giant puppet show and the ultimate aim is just to give the masses a good show. 5 days later it will be back in Obama's favour and you find that what you really have is nothing more than Presidential pop idol.

What an absolute joke of a political process. No firm policies and we know for a fact that any half baked pledges will never be implemented. As ever there is no accountancy in US politics, just a huge charade and a lot of rancid air being blown around.

[Mars_ax]

I cannot get over how fickle the US general public is. Latest polls apparently have Romney ahead and on the back of what exactly? He blatantly showed contempt for half of the nation and on the back of a debate which showed him talking out of his arse, people have now decided 'he'll do then'. It is nonsense. Part of me cannot help but feel it is all one big pantomime, a giant puppet show and the ultimate aim is just to give the masses a good show. 5 days later it will be back in Obama's favour and you find that what you really have is nothing more than Presidential pop idol.

What an absolute joke of a political process. No firm policies and we know for a fact that any half baked pledges will never be implemented. As ever there is no accountancy in US politics, just a huge charade and a lot of rancid air being blown around.

And what's even stranger is our " joke of a political process" has been copied by other countries around the world.

[Gandalf]

I cannot get over how fickle the US general public is. Latest polls apparently have Romney ahead and on the back of what exactly? He blatantly showed contempt for half of the nation and on the back of a debate which showed him talking out of his arse, people have now decided 'he'll do then'. It is nonsense. Part of me cannot help but feel it is all one big pantomime, a giant puppet show and the ultimate aim is just to give the masses a good show. 5 days later it will be back in Obama's favour and you find that what you really have is nothing more than Presidential pop idol.

What an absolute joke of a political process. No firm policies and we know for a fact that any half baked pledges will never be implemented. As ever there is no accountancy in US politics, just a huge charade and a lot of rancid air being blown around.

And what's even stranger is our " joke of a political process" has been copied by other countries around the world.

I believe very few nations have a 'democracy' quite like that of the USA. It is a two party dictatorship where the will of the general population is largely ignored. At least real dictatorships don't pretend to be anything other than what they are. Romney or Obama? Behind closed doors its the same old teams of advisers regardless of who gets in. An elite for the elite and a few crumbs passed down to a general public that gets the raw end of the stick. Forty years of history is proof of the pudding.

[El Kabong]

I believe very few nations have a 'democracy' quite like that of the USA. It is a two party dictatorship where the will of the general population is largely ignored. At least real dictatorships don't pretend to be anything other than what they are. Romney or Obama? Behind closed doors its the same old teams of advisers regardless of who gets in. An elite for the elite and a few crumbs passed down to a general public that gets the raw end of the stick. Forty years of history is proof of the pudding.

we're not a God damned Democracy we're a Constitutional Republic! When we say The Pledge of Allegiance we don't pledge allegiance to The Democracy, we pledge "To the Republic".