I wish u would all grow the fuck up and stop thinking every single criticism is an attempt to "hate" on a fighter. I like Big George, but the fact that I do is one of the reasons I believe I may have overrated him in the past, and so I was putting forward an argument in anticipation of a mature and reasonable response from those on the other side. It's a debating forum....I don't need to 'seek help' just because i can blow away the hyperbole! LOL
To respond:
- Read my post again. Do i give George credit for the frazier win? Yes. However frazier would have no impact against the top tier over the past 15 years or so IMO. You don't have to agree...
- Jimmy Young beat him, fair and square. All the excuses in the world don't change that. He also put him down so any notions of foremans chin being rock solid are defunct.
- Ron Lyle was not a great heavyweight, plain and simple. All the excuses in the world won't change that either. Respect to foreman for coming back after that beating from lyle and stopping him though!
- Going 24-0 in his comeback was not overly impressive when you consider the dire standard of opposition he was facing. Foreman's 90s career was carefully scripted. That is to be accepted though considering his age. Morrison easily beat him.
- Going 12 rounds against Holyfield is not a staggering achievement. It's a good achievement, but not spectacular. Respect for the holy fight but he was comprehensively outboxed in it!
-Kayoing norton is nothing special as he was stopped by188lb garcia a 5-1 underdog. Garcia put the much heavier Norton on the deck in the 1st round and staggered him in the 5th and 7th rounds. In the 8th, Garcia floored Norton again with 15 seconds left. He got up again, and Garcia put him down again just as the bell rang. Norton stumbled to his corner and collapsed. That is a brutalisation. Norton never won a title.
- He one-punched former lhw champion Michael Moorer. Again, a good achievement but nothing incredible. George's punching power is one thing that i dont doubt but i certainly dont think he is the GREATEST PUNCHER EVER! Do yourself a favour, go watch the Axel Schulz fight!
Terry Anderson, Adilson Rodriguez, Bert Cooper, Tony Fulialangi, Steve Zouski and Ken Lakusta third tier at best! I can't believe u are highlighting the cooney fight! Drug abused and boozed out Cooney a legitimate threat is a joke of the highest order.
Foreman KO Frazier, Foreman KO Moorer, that should not equate to foreman being the hardest hitter ever and nor should it equate to him running over most of the top HW's ever too! Consider too that he had size advantages over them both aswell and that frazier was decked twice by bonavena ( In fact he and was lucky to escape with a SD over him!) And we all know about moorers chin! Frazier was hurt by featherfist bugner too...
Foreman had a good chin all in all though, nice power, great fighter in the 70's but ultimately beatable if u could negate his power! He was outboxed by Ali and then Young in his prime, and had a life n death war with average lyle (who was lucky to escape with a win over bugner!) no excuses.
P.s I may have been a bit facetious with the 'Because he fought ali' point but still....Anyway peace out folks.
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