4 months in prison for wearing a hateful t-shirt....yay for free speech Britain!

[Andre]

I am generally ok with limiting time and place of hate speech but I am strongly in support of of a broad protection of speech of any kind. If a city ordnance requires an application for rallies and prescribes the time and locations of such rallies then I think that is reasonable but I can't support incarcerating someone b/c their speech is abhorrent.

I agree.
But on the other side if you turn up to a funeral in a clown suit telling jokes I think you need to be dealt with somehow, maybe sanctioned.

[Ghost]

I am generally ok with limiting time and place of hate speech but I am strongly in support of of a broad protection of speech of any kind. If a city ordnance requires an application for rallies and prescribes the time and locations of such rallies then I think that is reasonable but I can't support incarcerating someone b/c their speech is abhorrent.

I agree.
But on the other side if you turn up to a funeral in a clown suit telling jokes I think you need to be dealt with somehow, maybe sanctioned.

The "Fashion Police" have arrived.

[VictorCharlie]

I am generally ok with limiting time and place of hate speech but I am strongly in support of of a broad protection of speech of any kind. If a city ordnance requires an application for rallies and prescribes the time and locations of such rallies then I think that is reasonable but I can't support incarcerating someone b/c their speech is abhorrent.

I agree.
But on the other side if you turn up to a funeral in a clown suit telling jokes I think you need to be dealt with somehow, maybe sanctioned.

See to me this more than a freedom of speech scenario. Sure most cemetaries are public areas but like many public spots they are reserved for specific events. While you have the right to dress like a clown and tell offensive jokes you don't have the right to intrude in a private ceremony all though the scum of Westboro Baptist seem to disagree.

[Andre]

I am generally ok with limiting time and place of hate speech but I am strongly in support of of a broad protection of speech of any kind. If a city ordnance requires an application for rallies and prescribes the time and locations of such rallies then I think that is reasonable but I can't support incarcerating someone b/c their speech is abhorrent.

I agree.
But on the other side if you turn up to a funeral in a clown suit telling jokes I think you need to be dealt with somehow, maybe sanctioned.

See to me this more than a freedom of speech scenario. Sure most cemetaries are public areas but like many public spots they are reserved for specific events. While you have the right to dress like a clown and tell offensive jokes you don't have the right to intrude in a private ceremony all though the scum of Westboro Baptist seem to disagree.

Same, I recon the dude in the T shirt was more than a freedom of speech scenario too, more offensive slogan or offensive advertizing maybe. Dont know the whole story, but we may well feel the same if a cop shot one of our kids dead instead of through both knees.Happened out here,a kid with knife for fucks sake in an open park against two cops with guns, so they shot for the chest and killed him.

What have those baptists got up to now? Who're they hassling this time?
They should be sanctioned too. Rubber suits all round .

[Gandalf]

I was watching LA Confidential today and it reminded me why people hate the police. They are vindictive, manipulative and corrupt. You hurt one of them or insult one of them and they want to get you and the laws are on their side. Look at Hillborough, look at this story. Does anybody really trust the police? They are not on your side. They will beat if you protest. They will arrest you if you say a naughty word (heaven forbid). They are part of that gang. They look out for one another. They enforce the laws of those who want to oppress.

Why would you become a police officer? That statement can stand alone.

Of course you should be able to wear a shirt saying 'Fuck the police'. Of course you should be able to sing or rap about 'Fucking the police'. It is a noble gesture to say fuck the police.

[El Kabong]

Why would you become a police officer? That statement can stand alone.

Because you are addicted to power and maybe have been humiliated in the past or treated poorly and now you want revenge.

This is why people should own guns, the police have them, the Armed Forces have them, we should be able to protect ourselves against them overstepping their bounds.

[Gandalf]

Why would you become a police officer? That statement can stand alone.

Because you are addicted to power and maybe have been humiliated in the past or treated poorly and now you want revenge.

This is why people should own guns, the police have them, the Armed Forces have them, we should be able to protect ourselves against them overstepping their bounds.

How many people shoot an officer and get away with it?

[El Kabong]

How many people shoot an officer and get away with it?

What do you mean "get away with it"? I'm sure a significant amount of people kill officers and don't got directly to jail or get shot in return.

My point is if we're all equal under the law then we should all be EQUAL under the law when it comes to gun ownership and right to protect yourself

[0james0]

I don't think everyone is going to give up their guns just because you asked nicely. I think there is more chance they will simply ask people to stop shooting each other.

I wonder if in our lifetimes there will be laser weapons on the streets? Interesting thought.

There do seem to be a lot more random mass killings recently though. Last week in Wales some guy started running people over, in seperate attacks, reversed over a few people to get them a second time and hit other people with a wrench.

I can't imagine what makes someone think that is a good idea.