Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
If the government didn't give grants so that smart poor kids got to go to college it'd just open up places for thick rich kids to get in. If there was an oversupply of places then the worst academic places would cut the number of places they offer. The price of tuition etc nationally would remain exactly the same. All the main colleges have a massive oversubscription every year -- they get to pick and choose who they want. That isn't going to change if the government cut all funding, they're still going to be oversubscribed. If you go to countries where the state pays for everybodys' college education you find that the cost is a fraction of US costs. Why is that? Government funding of education is one of the best things it does and it doesn't do nearly enough of it. If I hadn't got government funding for my education I'd be a builder and my kids would have gone to the local state school with the expectation of being builders when they grew up.

Look mate, Ron Paul and the other fruit loop are so extreme that even GOP primary voters the most conservative group of voters you can find in America, completely reject them. Anybody campaigning on a platform of ending social security and medicare is going to lose 48 states. That's just a fact. I know it's difficult for you to accept that you're in a tiny minority but you are.
Kirk you simply are incorrect. The government didn't always give grants and assistance out like candy and poor kids went to college by paying for it themselves. The sharp increase in higher education tuition can be directly tied to the increased amount of subsidies. There is a massive amount of college opportunities and in Texas if you graduate in the top 10% of your HS class every state school has to accept you. If you want to go to college there is a myriad of choices. There isn't enough rich kids out there to fill up all of the universities and colleges. Massive subsidies in college tuition have caused the price to far outpace inflation just like it has in other industries. Remove the subsidy and Universities will either lower the tuition fee or see their enrollments drop.

Paul and Johnson didn't get traction in the GOP b/c the party elite work against them and b/c where they are more fiscally conservative and small government geared than any of the GOP candidates they are too socially liberal for the party's religious right and neocons. I simply think your premise that not being favorable to GOP primary voters equates to not more favorable to the general populace is false. There is a reason that the two main candidates and parties work tirelessly to shut out people like Paul and Johnson b/c they know in a debate like forum their candidates will be embarrased. They know if one of these guys every gets to play on a even field that the monopoly is over.