Thomas Dulorme vs. Luis Carlos Abregu Saturday night fight/chat thread

[TitoFan]

Thanks for the heads up as always, Mars.

[Rantcatrat]

If I recall correctly, Abregu lost to Bradley, right? However, he looked pretty sharp even in defeat. Should be a good scrap with Dulorme..

[Mars_ax]

If I recall correctly, Abregu lost to Bradley, right? However, he looked pretty sharp even in defeat. Should be a good scrap with Dulorme..

Yup, Abregu is another tough Argentinian who's won 33 (KO 27) and his only loss is to Bradley a pretty clear cut UD. I'll be pulling for him against, Thomas Dulorme (sorry Tito) from PR, who's undefeated with 16 wins - 12 by KO.
I don't know why the only title fight of the night (Miguel Vazquez vs. Marvin Quintero, 12 rounds, for Vazquez's IBF lightweight title) isn't being promoted better, I reckon there's a reason, but I don't know what it is, perhaps it's a shitty match up.

[TitoFan]

If I recall correctly, Abregu lost to Bradley, right? However, he looked pretty sharp even in defeat. Should be a good scrap with Dulorme..

Yup, Abregu is another tough Argentinian who's won 33 (KO 27) and his only loss is to Bradley a pretty clear cut UD. I'll be pulling for him against, Thomas Dulorme (sorry Tito) from PR, who's undefeated with 16 wins - 12 by KO.
I don't know why the only title fight of the night (Miguel Vazquez vs. Marvin Quintero, 12 rounds, for Vazquez's IBF lightweight title) isn't being promoted better, I reckon there's a reason, but I don't know what it is, perhaps it's a shitty match up.

Aw c'mon, bro! Say it isn't so.

Naw it's alright buddy. But wow.... I know little of Abregu, but I know Argentinians are known for packing a wallop. Two things I can generalize about fighters from specific countries: Mexicans usually have a pretty good chin. And Argentinians punch like a mule.

I'm pulling for Dulorme, though.

[Violent Demise]

Dulorme might be in over his head. Really it comes down to if Abregu can take Dulorme power. Abregu has never been stopped before but he's been down and hurt (and hurt badly) enough times to where I consider his chin to be on the weak side. If he can handle the power he'll have his way with Dulorme. If not this one ends early.

It's a big step up for Dulorme. Who really hasn't looked all that impressive in his last couple of fights. He needs a good showing. For him and Puerto Rico. It hasn't gone well for a lot of these recent PR prospects. Luis Orlando Del Valle, Jason Escalera, Cesar Seda, Alex Perez have all lost recently. Jonathan Gonzalez (the Junior middleweight) should of lost. Luis Cruz, Kenny Galarza and Carlos Negron were exposed as frauds. I do like the other Jonathan Gonzalez. The Flyweight. He's looked good. Arroyo twins are decent. But it's time they stepped it up. But they still doing better than the overrated Velasquez twins. One ain't fought in over 2 years. And the other one is still fighting 4 rounders against 1-16 fighters. Dulorme needs to come up big

[TitoFan]

I'm more familiar with some than others... but my personal favorites are the Arroyo twins. McWilliams more than McJoe. But yeah... they need to step up in class of opponent. I think McWilliams is championship material. Jonathan Gonzalez (flyweight) is awesome, in my opinion. A lot of potential there. I'm not down on Cesar Seda. He lost to Omar Narvaez, but has since bounced back. Luis Cruz disappointed me in his loss to Burgos and yeah... I see nothing there, unfortunately. I see nothing in his style that would allow him to go far. And I've never been a big believer in Carlos Negron. It would be nice to have a good P.R. heavyweight.... but Carlos has always looked a bit chinny to me. Too lanky and chinny to compete at the elite level.

[Violent Demise]

I'm more familiar with some than others... but my personal favorites are the Arroyo twins. McWilliams more than McJoe. But yeah... they need to step up in class of opponent. I think McWilliams is championship material. Jonathan Gonzalez (flyweight) is awesome, in my opinion. A lot of potential there. I'm not down on Cesar Seda. He lost to Omar Narvaez, but has since bounced back. Luis Cruz disappointed me in his loss to Burgos and yeah... I see nothing there, unfortunately. I see nothing in his style that would allow him to go far. And I've never been a big believer in Carlos Negron. It would be nice to have a good P.R. heavyweight.... but Carlos has always looked a bit chinny to me. Too lanky and chinny to compete at the elite level.

Who's considered the better prospect out of Camilo Perez, Braulio Santos and Miguel Soto

[TitoFan]

I'm more familiar with some than others... but my personal favorites are the Arroyo twins. McWilliams more than McJoe. But yeah... they need to step up in class of opponent. I think McWilliams is championship material. Jonathan Gonzalez (flyweight) is awesome, in my opinion. A lot of potential there. I'm not down on Cesar Seda. He lost to Omar Narvaez, but has since bounced back. Luis Cruz disappointed me in his loss to Burgos and yeah... I see nothing there, unfortunately. I see nothing in his style that would allow him to go far. And I've never been a big believer in Carlos Negron. It would be nice to have a good P.R. heavyweight.... but Carlos has always looked a bit chinny to me. Too lanky and chinny to compete at the elite level.

Who's considered the better prospect out of Camilo Perez, Braulio Santos and Miguel Soto

Well... they're all very popular locally. But I'd have to say Braulio, with Camilo not far behind. Braulio has scary power, and carries himself well. Camilo I'd say has deceptive power, not to be dismissed... but more than that, he moves around the ring pretty well. Soto is very popular with local crowds, but I'm not sure he's considered a "can't miss" prospect.

[Mars_ax]

Just wanted to add to this thread: HBO will likely add some sort of tribute paying final respect to Emmanuel Steward during this card Saturday night, it will be worth watching.

[Violent Demise]

I'm more familiar with some than others... but my personal favorites are the Arroyo twins. McWilliams more than McJoe. But yeah... they need to step up in class of opponent. I think McWilliams is championship material. Jonathan Gonzalez (flyweight) is awesome, in my opinion. A lot of potential there. I'm not down on Cesar Seda. He lost to Omar Narvaez, but has since bounced back. Luis Cruz disappointed me in his loss to Burgos and yeah... I see nothing there, unfortunately. I see nothing in his style that would allow him to go far. And I've never been a big believer in Carlos Negron. It would be nice to have a good P.R. heavyweight.... but Carlos has always looked a bit chinny to me. Too lanky and chinny to compete at the elite level.

Who's considered the better prospect out of Camilo Perez, Braulio Santos and Miguel Soto

Well... they're all very popular locally. But I'd have to say Braulio, with Camilo not far behind. Braulio has scary power, and carries himself well. Camilo I'd say has deceptive power, not to be dismissed... but more than that, he moves around the ring pretty well. Soto is very popular with local crowds, but I'm not sure he's considered a "can't miss" prospect.

Can't miss must not mean what it use to mean considering so many have been missing (Negron is gonna get murdered fighting as a heavyweight). And more will follow. I know Jose Pedraza has that Olympic hype behind him. But he hasn't looked all that impressve in recent fights. His power seems to be just average. Abner Cotto is just living off Jose Cotto's name. He's not good enough to deserve to live off Miguel's name. Jayson Velez and Jose Gonzalez are no better than the Junior Middlewight Jonathan Gonzalez. Who I don't think much of at all. Before all this pointless "hate" talk starts, I think very highly of the little Jonathan Gonzalez. And I been intrigued by Jorge Maysonet and Jeffrey Fontanez. Maysonet in paticular has my interest