The Terrible Hypocrisy of England and America ın Geopolitics

[El Kabong]

KILL LISTS, ındefınıte detentıon, ıncarceratıon wıthout trıal, warrantless wıretappıng, NDAA, suspensıon of Habeus Corpus, dismissal of Posse Comıtatus, ınvadıng Lıbya wıthout Congressıonal approval, ınvadıng Iraq despıte 3 out of 5 members of UN Sec Councıl votıng agaınst the ınvasıon, "goıng ıt alone", etc etc.

The United States has to be willing to "go it alone" because in some situations it is needed, HOWEVER, we should pick our battles more carefully. As soon as we got involved in Egypt & more so with Libya and we made 0 attempt to help the Green Revolution in Iran it showed weakness on our part and we came off as meddlers.

The "reasons" we got involved so heavily in Libya is due to our Allies Italy & France who get oil from Libya and who gets called out for intervening The United States as per usual.

Egypt was fucking disgusting. I don't give a flying fuck what Mubarak did in his country all I know is that the guy kept the peace with Israel and that made our job all the easier for the past 30 years. And now we have the Muslim Brotherhood in power....oh, what a refreshing progressive change ....I'm sure they won't call for the destruction of Israel, I mean it's only part of their agenda to destroy "Zionism".

The warning I would give people is that the people "behind the curtain" of Islam in politics are counting on the good intentions of the socialists/leftists in America and elsewhere around the world. Sure they'll promise to be more advanced in their politics and be nicer to women and prisoners and so on, but once they get enough power they'll turn on those lefties and only the hardcore no drinking no dancing no fun Islamists will be around and well it's going to dishearten quite a few liberal idealists who thought "things would be different". You side with such groups at your own peril, the Gigi Ibrahim's (one of the "famous" bloggers of the Tahir Square demostrations) of the world will find out the truth about who they support and what they think of "Women's Rights" soon enough.

[El Kabong]

Pakistan Parents Killed Daughter for Eyeing Boy - ABC News

".....Oooooh how Progressive of them, gee I wish my country could be more like that" - said nobody ever

[TitoFan]

HOWEVER, we should pick our battles more carefully.

Yes Lyle... excellent. Good to hear you agree on that point.

The "reasons" we got involved so heavily in Libya is due to our Allies Italy & France who get oil from Libya and who gets called out for intervening The United States as per usual.

But here's my point. Let Italy and France fight their own battles. If it's Italy's and France's oil at stake, and they feel like invading or fighting Libya..... let them. This is where the U.S. needs to stay out.

The warning I would give people is that the people "behind the curtain" of Islam in politics are counting on the good intentions of the socialists/leftists in America and elsewhere around the world. Sure they'll promise to be more advanced in their politics and be nicer to women and prisoners and so on, but once they get enough power they'll turn on those lefties and only the hardcore no drinking no dancing no fun Islamists will be around and well it's going to dishearten quite a few liberal idealists who thought "things would be different". You side with such groups at your own peril, the Gigi Ibrahim's (one of the "famous" bloggers of the Tahir Square demostrations) of the world will find out the truth about who they support and what they think of "Women's Rights" soon enough.

Yes, you might be right on all counts. No one is turning a blind eye on civil right atrocities in some sectors of the Islamic world. However... the U.S. cannot take upon itself the role of policeman for the rest of the world. Let the global community condemn these acts. Let them take the lead. If and only if the global community requests help from the U.S.... THEN we can act. Again, it's a fine line to walk.