The Terrible Hypocrisy of England and America ın Geopolitics

[TitoFan]

Tito,

I couldn't agree more we should have told France to go it alone but basically the called in their favor. We pulled the NATO mutual defense card for Afghanistan and they basically said you owe us on this one. The really glaring part about the whole thing is US military strength has basically allowed our NATO partners to become practically useless for any real combined effort. I'm not saying a British Para is a watered down version of our 82nd or Rangers but the fact that NATO couldn't handle Libya w/o us (our technology) is very telling. If it were up to me I'd pack up our shit and bring it home then tell the world they can go it alone for a while.

I think we're homing in on the root cause, Victor. The smart thing for the U.S. to do would be to address the NATO in the following manner:



"Look guys, for whatever reason, we're always seen as the meddling bad guys in conflicts across the globe. The whole purpose of NATO is to have a unified global power precisely for the resolution of conflicts in different parts of the world that could potentially spill over and affect other nations. Right now, you're (NATO) a bunch of wimps, basically depending on us, big bad U.S.A., to come running over and put out whatever fires flare up across the world. And for our troubles, we're hated by most of the Arab world, and a few other countries. This, in turn, helps fuel the acts of terrorism against our citizens, both in our own country and abroad.

We can't go back and undo the past. But we ask... no... we demand that NATO implements an action plan to strengthen its forces sooner rather than later, so we can go back to concentrating on our own affairs, and take a break from this bad guy image we've gotten. We're tired of getting shit all over us every time we're asked (or not) to come to the rescue. That is not our job exclusively. All other allied nations have to stop leaning on us, knowing we'll do the dirty work and get shit on in return."

Regards,
Uncle Sam

[El Kabong]

....I like to dream too

[TitoFan]

....I like to dream too

Which basically confirms the fact that the U.S. would rather keep its "ace up the sleeve".... meddling in handpicked foreign affairs that suit a particular political and/or economic agenda.... while crying about getting hated for having to be the world's "policeman".

[El Kabong]

Hey, don't complain to me, complain to Obama, HE thought it was a great idea....though I'm betting when Benghazi went down he wanted a do-over

[TitoFan]

He thought WHAT was a good idea?? We're talking U.S. foreign policy here. Can you put your anti-Obama rants aside for just a minute? Or are you implying that all the U.S.'s problems abroad are Obama's fault also?

[VictorCharlie]

What the US needs is a defined foreign policy. A set standard of protocols that lead to military action (define what types and when they are used), diplomatic engagement, introduction of UN resolutions etc.

[El Kabong]

He thought WHAT was a good idea?? We're talking U.S. foreign policy here. Can you put your anti-Obama rants aside for just a minute? Or are you implying that all the U.S.'s problems abroad are Obama's fault also?

Obama is Commander in Chief and he had the option of saying "OK we'll help you out France & Italy" or "Sorry fellas we're kind of tied up at the moment" and he chose to help out. And what do we have to show for it? Sure Moamar Qudaffi is dead & gone, but now we have a Libya that's split in two and half of it is of the "Let's burn down the West even if it means we will destroy the entire world" variety of government and by government I mean insane mob of Militant Muslims.

But hey we're supposed to re-elect Barry aren't we? I mean that cat has done such a bang up job from everything to unemployment (higher than when he was first elected) to foreign policy (we're being attacked by terrorists again) am I right? So who's ready for 4 more years

[TitoFan]

He thought WHAT was a good idea?? We're talking U.S. foreign policy here. Can you put your anti-Obama rants aside for just a minute? Or are you implying that all the U.S.'s problems abroad are Obama's fault also?

Obama is Commander in Chief and he had the option of saying "OK we'll help you out France & Italy" or "Sorry fellas we're kind of tied up at the moment" and he chose to help out. And what do we have to show for it? Sure Moamar Qudaffi is dead & gone, but now we have a Libya that's split in two and half of it is of the "Let's burn down the West even if it means we will destroy the entire world" variety of government and by government I mean insane mob of Militant Muslims.

But hey we're supposed to re-elect Barry aren't we? I mean that cat has done such a bang up job from everything to unemployment (higher than when he was first elected) to foreign policy (we're being attacked by terrorists again) am I right? So who's ready for 4 more years

Yes... that damn Obama. He's ruined all the good will that George W. had meticulously and skillfully built up with the rest of the world throughout his 8 years as President.