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    All these "Free Syrian" people are from a bunch of different Islamist groups and are all funded by the Saudis, so you can guess what kind of Islamist groups they are. The west is turning a blind eye to this as if the Syrian regime is changed it helps isolate Iran as Syria is a big Iranian ally. It's basically the same thing we did in Afghanistan in the 1980s to fuck the Soviets up and we all know how well that worked out for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    All these "Free Syrian" people are from a bunch of different Islamist groups and are all funded by the Saudis, so you can guess what kind of Islamist groups they are. The west is turning a blind eye to this as if the Syrian regime is changed it helps isolate Iran as Syria is a big Iranian ally. It's basically the same thing we did in Afghanistan in the 1980s to fuck the Soviets up and we all know how well that worked out for us.
    Well for once Kirkland talks a little bit of sense. Here's the real issue with Obama's foreign policy: He wants to help out the people that are against the dictator just like in Libya and Egypt, the problem is he won't take the time to figure out who he's helping. In World War II it was easy, anyone that wasn't a supporter of Hitler, Mussolini, or Petain (Vichy France) was an Ally. In Korea anyone who wasn't Chinese was basically an Ally, Vietnam things got decidedly crazier and mixed up and it's been that way ever since.

    If I lived in Syria I wouldn't feel safe at all from either side and therefore I suggest we allow them to kill each other and maybe, maybe if we're lucky we can have someone who is not a total asshole run that country afterwards.

    Say what you will about Mubarack and Quaddhafi but they kept their shit inside their own countries and didn't allow for any pot shots at Israel who looks better and better by comparison....they also seem to be in a bit more danger now than say 5 years ago when W was in office.

    The deal with Afghanistan and the Mujihadeen (sp?) fighters is that we didn't help them out after they fended off the Soviets and so we left there with a vaccume of power and the Taliban seized on it and for a while that was fine. We also helped out Muslims in Kosovo and after that what thanks did we get? I think the United States should not help another Muslim group again. It's like trying to pick up a scorpion and move it to safety, we're trying to help but we keep getting stung, I say let them go how Allah thinks they should and if they side against us then so be it, we'll stomp a mudhole in their asses like we should have done in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Here's the real issue with Obama's foreign policy: He wants to help out the people that are against the dictator just like in Libya and Egypt, the problem is he won't take the time to figure out who he's helping.
    This isn't true. The first guy to go down was Ben Ali in Tunisia and the Obama administration officially didn't take sides between the unarmed demonstrators and the Tunisian army until Ben Ali's plane left Tunisian airspace on the way to Saudi. Same in Egypt. The first thing the US did was to fly in planeloads of riot control equipment. That stopped when the Egyptians started putting pictures of US-made teargas canisters on Facebook. Libya was an opportunity to get US access to Libyan oilfields and Syria is something America/Israel are desperate to see happen as it helps isolate Iran. But none of this is really what Obama wants. Obama or any other US president would be delighted with a return to the pre-Tunisia status quo. Unfortunately that isn't going to happen so the challenge is how best to manage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I say let them go how Allah thinks they should and if they side against us then so be it, we'll stomp a mudhole in their asses like we should have done in the first place.
    Uh huh. So when I said before that your attitude was to out-Saddam Saddam and you replied oh no, I'm not some barbaric idiot you weren't telling the exact truth were you?

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    Uh huh. So when I said before that your attitude was to out-Saddam Saddam and you replied oh no, I'm not some barbaric idiot you weren't telling the exact truth were you?
    I'm partial to allowing American soldiers to kill the enemy

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    I no a Friend he is a Syrian, in the last 12 months, he has lost some of his family, taken out of there
    home and executed in the street, shot in the head, Poor guy is living in fear, about the rest of his
    family I hope they are safe and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Uh huh. So when I said before that your attitude was to out-Saddam Saddam and you replied oh no, I'm not some barbaric idiot you weren't telling the exact truth were you?
    I'm partial to allowing American soldiers to kill the enemy
    Yes, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Uh huh. So when I said before that your attitude was to out-Saddam Saddam and you replied oh no, I'm not some barbaric idiot you weren't telling the exact truth were you?
    I'm partial to allowing American soldiers to kill the enemy
    Yes, of course.
    Which is apparently something that has red tape these days

    Afghanistan | Rules of Engagement | Petraeus

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    We speak different languages
    We come from different cultures
    We keep different traditions
    No matter what you are or where you are
    You are not responsible for the past
    But you are for the future.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Uh huh. So when I said before that your attitude was to out-Saddam Saddam and you replied oh no, I'm not some barbaric idiot you weren't telling the exact truth were you?
    I'm partial to allowing American soldiers to kill the enemy
    Yes, of course.
    Which is apparently something that has red tape these days

    Afghanistan | Rules of Engagement | Petraeus
    Yes, and why do you think the army would set its own rules of engagement?

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