Last week you were saying that the GOP wasn't conservative enough and were saying that a guy like Ron Paul who has a hardline immigration policy could win a national election. Now you're saying that the GOP has to become more moderate to win and that people who last week weren't voting GOP because the GOP isn't conservative enough are now going to vote GOP en masse after they become even less conservative.
Seeing as it'll become common knowledge in the next couple of weeks, I might as well pass on some actual insider information about how the fiscal cliff thing is going to go. Over the weekend various Obama Treasury people have gone to Wall Street and met with money industry people and filled them in on what's going to happen with the fiscal cliff. Apparently once negotiations with the GOP get under way Obama is going to announce that he's going to increase taxes for the top 1% only, keep current spending unchanged and add additional spending -- a new stimulus -- of about five hundred billion dollars a year for the next two years and up around a trillion dollars a year for the last two years of his presidency.
Some of this stimulus will be in the form of a tax cut but will go to low/middle income earners in the form of a payroll tax cut to get the GOP on board but the vast majority of the stimulus money will be spent to replace old bridges, roads, schools and similar infrastructure and also to build a national electric power grid fit for the twenty first century. Obama is going to tour the country to sell the plan to the American people, he's going to hold televised town hall meetings in most states, particularly the ones that just voted for Romney, and explain what he wants to do. All of these meetings will be televised statewide and some will be televised nationwide.
Sometimes your reading comprehension is appallingly bad. Surely you can differentiate between conservative and libertarian. The Libertarian stance on immigration is open borders which would be more liberal using current vernacular not more conservative. Our previous discussion was specific to spending/taxes/entitlements. On those issues I do believe a more libertarian GOP candidate would be beneficial on social issues the GOP isn't going to go full libertarian but needs to tone down the religious rhetoric and message them better. The GOP has not always been so draconian on immigration (Bush/Reagan examples already mentioned) and yes they need to change this. I believe this could change it w/o a full blown party revolt.
Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson
Damn... the "butthurt", to use @Youngblood 's word, is worse than I thought.
Healing the 'united' states split by presidential election
Looks like MSNBC has decided to quit the charade of being news and joined in with Fox to provided the best one sided agenda they can.
MSNBC Beats Fox News By Following Its Example - Yahoo! News
Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson
These are American voters and they are Democrats
cash for clunkers....
lol u mad.
We could play exploit the low hanging fruit game all day, there are endless supplies of it to go around. But it doesn't help your cause much when you've basically just had your ass handed to you.
You'll have to remind me of when I signed up here at Saddo's, I may have missed it. I don't remember swearing a pledge of allegiance to your flag. Or some kind of thought policing governed by you or your nations interests. Pretty sure I can talk about what ever it is I feel like.
Or, is that too many freedom fries for you to chew on all at once?
Last edited by Youngblood; 11-12-2012 at 08:21 PM.
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