Robert Guerrero vs. Selcuk Aydin Saturday night fight/chat thread

[Mars_ax]

Guerrero is one of my favorite fighters, Selcuk Aydin"Mini-Tyson" is an undefeated ( 23-0 (KO 17) Turkish fighter living in Germany, who might give Guerrero a bit of grief.
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July 28
At San Jose, Calif. (Showtime): Robert Guerrero vs. Selcuk Aydin, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim welterweight title; Shawn Porter vs. Alfonso Gomez, 10 rounds, welterweights; George Groves vs. Francisco Sierra, 8 rounds, super middleweights.

[armin]

Guerrero is one of my favorite fighters, Selcuk Aydin"Mini-Tyson" is an undefeated ( 23-0 (KO 17) Turkish fighter living in Germany, who might give Guerrero a bit of grief.
Selçuk Aydin - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

July 28
At San Jose, Calif. (Showtime): Robert Guerrero vs. Selcuk Aydin, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim welterweight title; Shawn Porter vs. Alfonso Gomez, 10 rounds, welterweights; George Groves vs. Francisco Sierra, 8 rounds, super middleweights.

I like guererro too but have no clue what he's doing going from lightweight straight to welter, he wasn't at lightweight all that long...and feels like its been a while since he had a fight.

[TigerFan]

I'm tempted to take Aydin in an upset. Mainly due to Robert's inactivity & Aydin being a natural welterweight with a physical style. It wasn't that long ago Robert was at 130.

If Robert adjusts to the added weight he'll outbox Aydin. I'm just wondering why he would skip an entire weight class

[Mars_ax]

I'm tempted to take Aydin in an upset. Mainly due to Robert's inactivity & Aydin being a natural welterweight with a physical style. It wasn't that long ago Robert was at 130.

If Robert adjusts to the added weight he'll outbox Aydin. I'm just wondering why he would skip an entire weight class

Good question, you'd think Guerrero might stop and have a few fights at Jr. Welterweight or a few "adjustment" fights @ Welterweight before jumping right into a title fight.

[TheMacMagician]

Guerrero seems to have done a lot of shouting out and complaining of not getting big fights, then when he gets one he pulls out. To be fair to him, I actually think he's the kind of guy that just craves the big shot and will take any opportunity to get it, any opportunity being a Welter match-up with Aydin. He also is in no position to be picking and choosing opponents.

I like Guererro, just got fed up with him and his incessant calling out of people he had no business calling out, seen as he hadn't barely even fought. Only a win over a faded Casamayor, who actually put him on the seat of his pants, and thoroughly outboxed Katsidis and gave him a pasting. I'd go as far as saying that neither of these bouts even come close to readying him for a genuine Welterweight contender like Aydin. He's not great by any means, but quite a powerhouse.

Guererro needs to find a home and fast before people dont care about him anymore. I really cared about watching him at 135, now, who knows...

[Althugz]

Don't expect the upset - I haven't even seen Guerrero fight but if he can box even just a little bit then he'll have a field day with Aydin.

Aydin just thinks he can blast anybody out with power and doesn't bother setting any shots up. He can't throw a straight right hand, it's always looping (I call this "Chisora syndrome") and so, so telegraphed. Horrible style.

[shza]

Guerrero seems to have done a lot of shouting out and complaining of not getting big fights, then when he gets one he pulls out. To be fair to him, I actually think he's the kind of guy that just craves the big shot and will take any opportunity to get it, any opportunity being a Welter match-up with Aydin. He also is in no position to be picking and choosing opponents.

I like Guererro, just got fed up with him and his incessant calling out of people he had no business calling out, seen as he hadn't barely even fought. Only a win over a faded Casamayor, who actually put him on the seat of his pants, and thoroughly outboxed Katsidis and gave him a pasting. I'd go as far as saying that neither of these bouts even come close to readying him for a genuine Welterweight contender like Aydin. He's not great by any means, but quite a powerhouse.

Guererro needs to find a home and fast before people dont care about him anymore. I really cared about watching him at 135, now, who knows...

He has had supremely bad luck with injuries over the last couple of years. Not his fault. And I can't blame the guy for self-promoting and trying to land big fights. It's what everyone does. He's trying to make a living.

I'm just happy to see him fight again. I thought he was the best fighter at 135 during his brief time there and would have picked him over JMM at that weight at that time. It is a big jump in weight here but he's tall and has the frame for it. And if Aydin (whom I've not seen) is really just a puncher, as Althugz says, then I agree that Guerrero should dominate him. He has outstanding technical skills.

[Beanz]

Do any of our stateside friends no much about Sierra? Will he be a danger for Groves? Boxer,brawler,puncher?

[captainanddew]

RG did have one fight at 140 almost exactly 2 yrs ago. Casamayor. So his only fight at that weight was against a shot/faded 135 pound fighter. And he got dropped late in that fight.

if Aydin can do decent bodywork throughout the fight he has a chance at catching RG in the last 3-4 rounds.

A fading Katsidis, who was beat up throughout the bout, was able to still hurt RG a bit later in their fight with bodyshots.

[Mars_ax]

RG did have one fight at 140 almost exactly 2 yrs ago. Casamayor. So his only fight at that weight was against a shot/faded 135 pound fighter. And he got dropped late in that fight.

if Aydin can do decent bodywork throughout the fight he has a chance at catching RG in the last 3-4 rounds.

A fading Katsidis, who was beat up throughout the bout, was able to still hurt RG a bit later in their fight with bodyshots.

I figure Robert will take care of business unless he gets rocked with a big shot. Guerrero has more experience and faced better competition than Aydin has. That's my take.

[Mars_ax]

The Showtime card starts @ 10:00 PM ET tonight here in the States and about 3:00 AM for you night owls in the UK, so ice up a brew or 2 and lets check it out.


July 28
At San Jose, Calif. (Showtime): Robert Guerrero vs. Selcuk Aydin, 12 rounds, for vacant WBC interim welterweight title; Shawn Porter vs. Alfonso Gomez, 10 rounds, welterweights; George Groves vs. Francisco Sierra, 8 rounds, super middleweights.

[Mars_ax]

Do any of our stateside friends no much about Sierra? Will he be a danger for Groves? Boxer,brawler,puncher?

Yo Beanz, you must have put this in the wrong thread.

cheers

[Beanz]

Do any of our stateside friends no much about Sierra? Will he be a danger for Groves? Boxer,brawler,puncher?

Yo Beanz, you must have put this in the wrong thread.

cheers

Not really this fight is on the undercard and you have already confirmed it in your own posts:-)

Cheers anyhoos

[Mars_ax]

Do any of our stateside friends no much about Sierra? Will he be a danger for Groves? Boxer,brawler,puncher?

Yo Beanz, you must have put this in the wrong thread.

cheers

Not really this fight is on the undercard and you have already confirmed it in your own posts:-)

Cheers anyhoos

Right you are Sir, George Groves vs. Francisco Sierra, 8 rounds, super middleweights. I doubt that Showtime will air this fight tonight, and sorry right off the top of my head, I don't know anything about either fighter other than they're Super-middleweights.
If I hear the result tonight, i'll post it in this thread.

[Diane]

Do any of our stateside friends no much about Sierra? Will he be a danger for Groves? Boxer,brawler,puncher?

Yo Beanz, you must have put this in the wrong thread.
middleweights. I doubt that Showtime will air this fight tonight, and sorry right off the top of my head, I don't know anything about either fighter other than they're Super-middleweights.
If I hear the result tonight, i'll post it in this thread.

They are showing this fight, it's just about to start on Showtime Extreme.