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Strangely, I am kind of in the middle on an issue such as this.


Sorry miles... you can't be in the middle. @Greenbeanz will accuse you of "keeping your options open" and "hedging your bets."

If anything my hardline stance on habitual fatherless impregnees who cannot open their legs without becoming impregnated will have him frothing. On the whole though I am in the middle. A man of 30 years graft in a single firm is unlikely to reimpose himself. Someone like that should really be given a state pension and be told they have done enough, but if they are proud and most likely are, should be given support to get back into the game. There are a lot of lazy people though and they need a kick up the bum.

Personally I cannot imagine needing to claim benefits. If you didn't study hard at school, you chose to drop out of society, and only then realise that there is nothing for you? Well, that is your fault. We are given a lot of opportunities and all too many fail to realise it and it is there that I see Lyle's point of view. You don't need an IQ of 150 to do well in life, just diligence, some self respect and motivation.

We have societies where people are watching crap on TV and their aptitude for doing well in life is obselete. They want it on a plate and that is wrong. However, when your corporations are being sold to different countries and home productivity is increasing, and yet wages aren't you see a problem emerging. Even the people that work hard and want to succeed are being thrown under a wagon. It is a spiraling circle of despair.