Iron Mike Tyson vs. Wladimir Klitschko

[IamInuit]

The prime Mike Tyson rips Wlads head off. Wlad has no chance in changing this to a scrap in a swimming pool.

[TysonBomb]

The prime Mike Tyson rips Wlads head off. Wlad has no chance in changing this to a scrap in a swimming pool.

Prime Tyson was terror personified ... Wlad would never have a chance

NO ONE ever had the combination of power, speed, athleticism, skill, punching ability, elusiveness and durability that he had.

Easily top 5 all time in power
Easily top 5 all time in hand speed among the heavyweights
One of the best chins in heavyweight history, one of the hardest guys to ever hit and probably the best combination puncher in the history of the heavyweight division and definitely the most ferocious boxer that ever lived.

Wlad has 2 choices: Get DQ'ed for holding or get KTFO

[Majesty]

Cus would have trained Tyson how to deal with Wlad's jab when it comes down to what Wlad does it's a very basic style, he's very effective at, nothing flashy at all about it.

But Cus would make Tyson avoid that jab and punish Wladmir to the body, Tyson's head movement and counter punching was very underrated and every time Wladimir reached with that jab his ribs would get punished, that plus Tyson's combination punching once he got inside would have hurt him. Also, Wladimir's love of holding I don't think he'd have faced someone quite as strong as Tyson was on the inside, and his arms would have freed up some body punching with the free hand and as hard as Tyson hit I don't know how much holding he'd want to do.

Tyson would break him down with his body punching, counter punching head movement, all around aggression and speed. I'd say an 8th round knockout for Tyson winning 5 rounds to 2 by the time of the knockout. Tyson's ability to bullrush you while avoiding every punch you were throwing to keep him off was something special to watch. Wladimir just wouldn't have been able to deal with it. Tyson's pace alone would be unlike anything he's had to deal with prior.

[TysonBomb]

Cus would have trained Tyson how to deal with Wlad's jab when it comes down to what Wlad does it's a very basic style, he's very effective at, nothing flashy at all about it.

But Cus would make Tyson avoid that jab and punish Wladmir to the body, Tyson's head movement and counter punching was very underrated and every time Wladimir reached with that jab his ribs would get punished, that plus Tyson's combination punching once he got inside would have hurt him. Also, Wladimir's love of holding I don't think he'd have faced someone quite as strong as Tyson was on the inside, and his arms would have freed up some body punching with the free hand and as hard as Tyson hit I don't know how much holding he'd want to do.

Tyson would break him down with his body punching, counter punching head movement, all around aggression and speed. I'd say an 8th round knockout for Tyson winning 5 rounds to 2 by the time of the knockout. Tyson's ability to bullrush you while avoiding every punch you were throwing to keep him off was something special to watch. Wladimir just wouldn't have been able to deal with it. Tyson's pace alone would be unlike anything he's had to deal with prior.

Wlad doesn't last that long ... Vitali might, but Wlad would be finished within 2 or 3 max

[IamInuit]

The Wlad prior to Manny teaching him how to clinch and lean on would have been killed. Worse then Louis/Carnera. Wlads epiphany style of grappling when threatened may win him the day if he were fighting the same Tyson Douglas did.

[TysonBomb]

The Wlad prior to Manny teaching him how to clinch and lean on would have been killed. Worse then Louis/Carnera. Wlads epiphany style of grappling when threatened may win him the day if he were fighting the same Tyson Douglas did.

That 8th round uppercut that Douglas took would've smashed Wlad's jaw, broken his neck and leave him convulsing on the canvas

[IamInuit]

The Wlad prior to Manny teaching him how to clinch and lean on would have been killed. Worse then Louis/Carnera. Wlads epiphany style of grappling when threatened may win him the day if he were fighting the same Tyson Douglas did.

That 8th round uppercut that Douglas took would've smashed Wlad's jaw, broken his neck and leave him convulsing on the canvas

Just giving him the benefit of doubt given that was not a prime Tyson. Long ruined by Don King.

[p4pking]

El Kabong, you're dead wrong!


Just noticed you were viewing the thread thought I'd save a few people the time

[generalbulldog]

Wlad's chin is so bad, I say Tyson probably wobbles him by throwing one of his famous forearms or elbows during the clinches. So Tyson brutally kos him within 3. With Vitali I say it goes the distance but who wins is a different kind of question.

[El Kabong]

The chin is the only issue for Wlad. Other than that, his style is great to go against Tyson. Tyson would more than likely catch Wlad and follow up maybe around 2-5. If Wlad makes it past 5 its his fight to lose.

Tyson doesn't beat Vitali.

[El Kabong]

All this "Tyson was unbeatable with Cus" is bullcrap. Tyson was vulnerable and he would have been battered by plenty of fighters.

[generalbulldog]

All this "Tyson was unbeatable with Cus" is bullcrap. Tyson was vulnerable and he would have been battered by plenty of fighters.

That is true, but one of those fighters ain't Wlad. If someone were to say Vitali has a good chance of beating Tyson, that wouldn't be so laughable. But china chin Wlad? Hell, I say Amir Khan for his own weight class has a better chin than Wlad.

[El Kabong]

Yeah yeah glad you're being reasonable about it

[TysonBomb]

All this "Tyson was unbeatable with Cus" is bullcrap. Tyson was vulnerable and he would have been battered by plenty of fighters.

That is true, but one of those fighters ain't Wlad. If someone were to say Vitali has a good chance of beating Tyson, that wouldn't be so laughable. But china chin Wlad? Hell, I say Amir Khan for his own weight class has a better chin than Wlad.

Amir Khan doesn't get ready to go with every clean shot he is hit by, like Wlad

his whole style is based upon protecting his fragile jaw

[TysonBomb]

The chin is the only issue for Wlad. Other than that, his style is great to go against Tyson. Tyson would more than likely catch Wlad and follow up maybe around 2-5. If Wlad makes it past 5 its his fight to lose.

Tyson doesn't beat Vitali.

Vitali couldnt beat an old, shot Lewis who took the fight against him on short notice after Vitali paid Kirk Johnson to let him fight Lewis instead

He nearly gets blinded and has half of his face mauled off against the only ATG (who was practically retired at the time) he faces and he's going to last against Tyson?

Please try and rationally explain how he's going to beat Tyson when pension collecting, retired shot Corrie Sanders nearly had him out in round 1? If Sanders' hand speed bothered him then imagine what his fate would be against Iron Mike? That stupid awkward style of his is exactly what Mike preys on. Tyson was the master at punching at angles ... he would get in range and start pounding his body and Vitali would lean back and back track towards the ropes where he would be at Mike's mercy.

If an athletic, mobile stone chinned Tony Tucker who was far more skilled than Vitali loses a decision against Mike then how would Vitali survive? You need more than just size to beat Mike ... Vitali will either hold and lose a decision or get stopped in the middle rounds. Vitali doesn't have the power to make Tyson earn his respect nor does he have the skill to keep him away.

Vitali couldn't even hit Chris Byrd clean and damaged his shoulder from MISSING. Tyson would put a beat down on him. I see him being finished the same way Bruno was in the second Tyson fight ... getting mauled when trying to hold on for dear life.

Vitali is only a "beast" in Klitschko land, full of fantasies and myths. In reality his record is piss poor, even worst than Wlad's and he never even fought a contender ranked higher than #3. His style of keeping his hands low and chin exposed will spell disaster for his chances against the most accurate, most powerful, explosive boxer to ever live. A lethal, lighting fast combination started with a right hook to the body, left hook to the jaw followed up with another right to the head of Vitali Klitschko would end his night.

All this "Tyson was unbeatable with Cus" is bullcrap. Tyson was vulnerable and he would have been battered by plenty of fighters.

Please tell me any fight that Tyson looked "vulnerable" from when Cus was around? Or rather I'll extend this to include Rooney.