Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
The Wlad prior to Manny teaching him how to clinch and lean on would have been killed. Worse then Louis/Carnera. Wlads epiphany style of grappling when threatened may win him the day if he were fighting the same Tyson Douglas did.
That 8th round uppercut that Douglas took would've smashed Wlad's jaw, broken his neck and leave him convulsing on the canvas