Robert Guerrero vs. Andre Berto - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[armin]

Berto refued VADA testing for this fight. VADA were the people who had caught him juicing. He accepted USADA testing. These are the people who have a seriously questionable relationship with Golden Boy -- the endless Morales tests until he managed to produce a negative result, dodgy dealings with Mayweather test results not being reported to authorities, the Peter Quillin-Winky Wright testing programme stopped without explanation after one random test, etc etc -- so I'm sure Berto could get away with taking PEDs for this fight.

I don't think Berto is a very skilled fighter, if he can't knock you out he's in trouble. He seemed to think he was Adrian Broner at the start of this fight. He's been carefully matched throughout his career and no question Guerrero is a more skilled fighter than Berto is. I can see Guerrero jabbing and moving and beating Berto on points, but to jump a stone in weight so late in his career and then to dominate and manhandle Berto like that I've got to say looks suspicious to me.

For people wondering where I got the mayweather/Winky/Morales stuff from I'd like to recommend these two articles on PEDs written by one of the top two or three boxing jounalists out the, Ali's biographer :

Max Boxing - Featured Articles - The PED Mess: Part One


Max Boxing - News - The PED Mess: Part Two

Again tho berto's lower body strength is nothing to be marvelled at, and if I remember right robert wasn't manhandling and pushin aydin around in that fight.

[Kirkland Laing]

Berto refued VADA testing for this fight. VADA were the people who had caught him juicing. He accepted USADA testing. These are the people who have a seriously questionable relationship with Golden Boy -- the endless Morales tests until he managed to produce a negative result, dodgy dealings with Mayweather test results not being reported to authorities, the Peter Quillin-Winky Wright testing programme stopped without explanation after one random test, etc etc -- so I'm sure Berto could get away with taking PEDs for this fight.

I don't think Berto is a very skilled fighter, if he can't knock you out he's in trouble. He seemed to think he was Adrian Broner at the start of this fight. He's been carefully matched throughout his career and no question Guerrero is a more skilled fighter than Berto is. I can see Guerrero jabbing and moving and beating Berto on points, but to jump a stone in weight so late in his career and then to dominate and manhandle Berto like that I've got to say looks suspicious to me.

For people wondering where I got the mayweather/Winky/Morales stuff from I'd like to recommend these two articles on PEDs written by one of the top two or three boxing jounalists out the, Ali's biographer :

Max Boxing - Featured Articles - The PED Mess: Part One


Max Boxing - News - The PED Mess: Part Two

Again tho berto's lower body strength is nothing to be marvelled at, and if I remember right robert wasn't manhandling and pushin aydin around in that fight.

Guerrero just looked overall to be much stonger. He was mauling Berto with his arms, not his legs.