Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
This is a topic I have been looking into a little. The very term denial would indicate that you are saying something didn't happen, that you refute something existed, but most revisionists openly accept that the holocaust existed. It is just that they dispute certain aspects of the traditional claims and in some respects have been proven correct. Initial claims of 4 million Jews killed at Aushwitz were revised down to 1.1 million. Not a small number and it makes you wonder.

I have also been following the story of David Cole, an intelligent young man who raised some interesting questions about traditional historical claims about the holocaust. Money was offered by the Jewish Defense League for information about where Cole lived and seemingly Cole went into hiding. A few years later he retracted all of his former views apparently of his own volition.

Clearly in some nations it is a crime to deny the holocaust. Well, actually it is a crime to even question the extent of the holocaust. Nobody is denying the holocaust, but merely questioning the lack of evidence concerning numbers and documents supporting key elements. This should not be a crime and to classify it as such is Orwellian in nature.

It seems that a holocaust denier is anyone who questions official accounts of the holcaust. Obviously revisionist is a far more apt term. Just as you critizise the terrorism of Israel and become an anti-semite, you criticize the lack of evidence on the holocaust and become a denier.

It just sounds more extreme than the so called deniers themselves. Thoughts?
Here is that retraction

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Revisionist is not an apt term at all. Your Ignorance is I presume wilful. Your predetermined conclusion is all about denial and uses no historical methodologies that could be seen as evidence therefore it is denial. The lack of evidence you speak of is glaringly obvious only here in your own post. Your initial claims of 4 million dead at Auschwitz is not a claim made by Jewish survivors or even some Zionist Conspiracy, It is a claim made by the Polish Communist Government under the orders of Russia. The plaque to which you and other Holocaust DENIERS refer did not even mention Jews it referred to 4 million enemies of the Nazis having died there. Over a million Jews were murdered there though and yet in your post there is no mention of Treblinka,Sobibor, Belzec, Chelmo,Majdanek etc or the 6 million Jews executed by the Nazis. There is no lack of evidence on the Holocaust and so it is you and your theories of a Jewish Conspiracy that is truly Orwellian.